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Am I overreacting? Have you any advice to help my four years old daughter until the GP get back to us?

(32 Posts)
CalineF Thu 23-Feb-17 21:05:53

My four years old daughter goes to nursery 9 am to 3:30 pm then to after school sessions 3:30 pm to 6 pm. My next door neighbour brought her in the morning and collected her in the evening this week while I recover nasty gastritis. However, this evening, he was informed my daughter has been complaining she was in pain when passing urine. He called me before leaving the school to tell me. I called our surgery straight away, but despite being promised a doctor will call back before 6:30 pm. No call was made, and I was already informed there is no appointment left for tomorrow. I carried a urinary test on a urine sample, and my daughter has a very nasty infection. She is in pain, and all I could do was to give her hot Himalayan salt bath, Neurofen, cranberry juice and vitamin C fruits (Strawberries, clementines), plenty water and taking her to the toilet every 30 minutes checking for blood in her urine since the urine test showed blood is present.
I am very upset with her school not calling me before 6 pm to inform me of my daughter's discomfort and pain.

Applesandpears23 Thu 23-Feb-17 21:10:08

Call 1111 to get an emergency appointmemt for her.

Inneedofaholiday2017 Thu 23-Feb-17 21:30:03

Yes call 111 you can get an app tonight in most areas of the country.

CalineF Thu 23-Feb-17 21:58:22

@Applesandpears23 @Inneedofholiday2017 Thank you. I have done everything recommended on the NHS wedsite: pain killers, loose clothes, plenty liquids, Vitamin C and cranberry juice. And if the pain worsen then call a GP. My daughter is sleeping right now and has managed to wee 50 ml without pain before falling asleep. halo Which is more than the four drops she passed every 30 minutes with pain over the previous 3 hours. I am just upset that she was left in pain and discomfort while at school. I will bring her to the GP at 8 am, that is if she sleep all the way through without pain else indeed I will call 111. Thank you smile

LouKout Thu 23-Feb-17 21:59:37

Acidic fruit will make her urine more painful to pass.

wickerlampshade Thu 23-Feb-17 22:03:19

Paracetamol when she wakes up, lots to drink and ring GP first thing. They won't refuse to see an ill child. Are you an HCP if you have urine dipsticks at home? If you really think she is dehydrated then 111 to get her seen tongiht. were there ketones in the urine?

CalineF Thu 23-Feb-17 22:18:56

@LouKout I am surprised that strawberries and cranberries are acid fruits.

lougle Thu 23-Feb-17 22:19:19

If you take her to the toilet every 30 minutes, she won't have any urine to pass. It isn't normal to pass urine that frequently. It's normal to wait until you have a full bladder, get the urge to pass urine, then void.

LouKout Thu 23-Feb-17 22:21:53

Strawberries and clementines are smile

RebelRogue Thu 23-Feb-17 22:22:17

Did your daughter actually complain at school of pain or just to her neighbour?

lougle Thu 23-Feb-17 22:23:47

Cranberry juice is ph 2.3-2.5; Strawberries 3.0-3.9

Ledehe Thu 23-Feb-17 22:25:04

No cranberry juice just lots of water. Warm bath and let her pee in there if she needs to. Calpol and cuddles

LouKout Thu 23-Feb-17 22:25:10

..and cranberries

zzzzz Thu 23-Feb-17 22:28:46

I agree lots of water and lesstrips to the loo. A hot water bottle can distract from pain.

CalineF Thu 23-Feb-17 22:31:05

@wickerlampshade Our surgery has refused to see my daughter on many occasions when she was ill. I already called them at 5:50 pm this evening. The surgery closes at 6:30 pm and they didn't bother to call back!
I have Mission Urinalysis Reagent Strips bought online because for the past two years I keep on getting UTI myself with serious bleeding due to medication trials for HC and NDPH.
There were no ketones in the urine but 70+ Leucocytes, maximum level of nitrates, +++ Proteins, 6.0 PH, ++ blood, 0.30 Specific gravity, No glucose. I will call our surgery at 8 am even if she is feeling better she will need antibiotics as a precaution.

CalineF Thu 23-Feb-17 22:34:39

@RebelRogue The teaching assistant who told my neighbour worked from both venue and had been with my daughter from 9 am to 6 pm. She told my neighbour: 'She keeps complaining of pain every time she goes to the toilet'
So, we assume had been going for quite a while.

CalineF Thu 23-Feb-17 22:41:36

Thank you, everyone.
She only went to the toilet 3 times in three hours. The first two times she peed only 3 drops and complained. The third time she peed 50 ml, no complaint, then she failed asleep. Bless her.
I gave a warm bath with Hymalian salt as soon as she arrived. :-)
I have laid plenty disposable bed pads and a thick towel under her. I hope she sleeps well poor baby.
I am keeping her in tomorrow.

ChardonnayKnickertonSmythe Thu 23-Feb-17 22:48:18

Cranberries and cranberry juice only work as prevention , you should not use them when you have symptoms.
Same with cutrus fruit, it only makes it worse at the moment.
But sure abort the significance of the salt being Himalayan. Salt is salt.

Lots of tap water would be much better.

ChardonnayKnickertonSmythe Thu 23-Feb-17 22:50:42

Also, antibiotics as a precaution might di more harm than good.

MrsMoastyToasty Thu 23-Feb-17 22:53:23

Barley water to drink. It's alkaline.

ChardonnayKnickertonSmythe Thu 23-Feb-17 22:55:22

Even some baking soda will be better than the juices.

CalineF Thu 23-Feb-17 23:10:40

@ChardonnayKnickertonSmythe The urine strip test clearly shows she has a urinary infection. (See photo) Because she is a child she will need antibiotics to prevent complications.

123bananas Fri 24-Feb-17 01:13:19

I posted on your other thread Caline, I understand that your daughter is asleep now so OOH may not be appropriate unless she wakes in a lot of pain.

If you can't get an emergency gp appt in the morning then if your surgery has a nurse practicioner they can prescribe antibiotics for a urine infection. Some walk in centres also have NP's and GPs who will prescribe. Failing that a paediatric A&E (lower wait times in the morning generally) With that level of nitrites she must have a raging infection, best treated asap.

FullOfRage Fri 24-Feb-17 01:31:13

Plenty of water nothing added and let her pass urine in a luke warm bath or let her hold a wet cloth down there when she's passing, takes away the sting for a bit

ChardonnayKnickertonSmythe Fri 24-Feb-17 07:34:54

Caline, I understand that you are worried.

My post about ABs referred to your saying I will call our surgery at 8 am even if she is feeling better she will need antibiotics as a precaution.

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