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Food intolerance and sleep

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Sophc2511 Sat 10-Jan-15 12:11:36

Hi , I'm new to this forum ! My little one is 13 months old and has never been the best sleeper ( never slept throigh) anyway over the past few months it has got worse and is awake every 30-60 mins after going to bed. ( bedtime at 7 starts to wake around 8) He goes to bed with ease put him in his cot pat his back and his gone without 1-3 minutes. However it's keeping him asleep that's the problem ! After lots and lots of research ( and no help from doctors!!) I have come to the conclusion that my little one could be suffering with a food intolerance. He has a history of allergys/intolerances he had milk allergy when he was younger and was on nutramigen which sorted the problem of constant upset and tummy pains as soon as he was switched to that formula. We kept him off all dairy when weaned but when he was approaching one we was told my pead to reintroduce so over Christmas he had some dairy as was reintroducing it and didn't show any signs of upset but we took him back off as I thkight it could of been one of the problems his sleep was getting worse. However it still continued! now I think maybe soya could be the problem as when he turned one I moved him onto a soya junior milk and the wel has got worse since this time. He has had soya yoghurts since around 6 months aswel. Has anybody had anything like this with thre little ones ! Food intolerances causing sleep problems ! I could just be clutching at straws here and putting two and two together but I am desperate for answers !!!

SugarPlumpFairy3 Mon 12-Jan-15 23:26:01

Some parents report that Coeliac disease can cause disturbed sleep.

Sophc2511 Tue 13-Jan-15 14:20:57

Oh really ! That does run in my family as my dad has is but didn't get diagnosed until a few years back. Can you get tested by doctors or is it something I would have to figure out for myself ?

Stretfordmum Sat 17-Jan-15 23:00:36

We found that our sons milk allergy affected his sleep. He was in specialist dairy free formula. When We were advised to introduce dairy, they suggested we use the 10 step milk ladder and have found that he can now tolerate up to about step 6-7 but any "raw" unheated milk based products means it affects his sleep - crying lots, being unsettled and in discomfort.
Not found this with soya products but some babies who are allergic to milk can also be allergic to soya milk.

Helenc19 Sun 18-Jan-15 00:23:52

My ds is allergic to dairy and soya, never a great sleeper and it can just be down to teething or developmenatal. Just trailing him fish free at the moment after a few very unsettled nights following him eating fish and hes been sleeping much better. Hes been eating fish for months without any problems though. I would cut out soya to see if theres any improvements first, if not speak to gp about coeliac test. To do the test they need to eating gluten so best not to cut it out first as reintroducing it can make reactions worse.

Sophc2511 Sun 18-Jan-15 07:54:41

My doctor isn't being supportive at all his just putting everything that's ever wron with him down to "vitals" I've took him off the soya milk and put him back on the hypoallergenic formula and his sleep has really improved his still waking during the night (but I think his just that kinda baby) but his not waking nowhere near as many times his also started teething yesterday so that doesn't help. What is the 10 step dairy ladder how does that work ? Sounds interesting !

Iggly Sun 18-Jan-15 07:58:07

See a different gp or stubbornly insist on a referral to a paediatrician.

I took my two DC completely off of dairy (we were referred to dieticians) and I chose to also remove soya as not good for young boys especially. Sleep was much improved.

If there's a family history of celiac you should get yourself and your child tested.

TheGrinchWearsStripes Sun 18-Jan-15 08:19:07

DS is now 2.6 and is intolerant to both dairy and soya - 50% of CMPI kids are also intolerant of soya. His sleep was awful until some time after we removed both from his diet. It took a few months to settle down properly.

You can google "milk ladder" and it will tell you the steps for reintroducing dairy. It starts with a bite of digestive biscuit and goes up to drinking cow's milk. There is also one for soya, although we had to be told that one by our dietitian, I haven't found it online.

Sophc2511 Sun 18-Jan-15 08:20:59

I have heard about soya being bad for boys do you know why this is ? Somebody mentioned it can give then too much aggression etc and tbh he has a lot of that he lashes out at me a lot but seems a lot calmer on the formula again ! It was a special soya do signed for 1+years. I have a peadiatrocoan already from when he was a baby we see him every 4 or so months but we haven't got an appointment until march as the waiting lost to see him is so long !! Thanks for answering and all your help everybody by the way ! X

Sophc2511 Sun 18-Jan-15 08:23:16

What age did you start to reintroduce ? I started when he turned one and seemed fine as in the nappys were fine and no tummy aches but woke up lots so took him back off I think in just going to keep him completely off all dairy and soya as he seems to have constant coughs aswel having these items !! Such a shame isn't it depriving then of the foods they like especially when his at nursery 2 days a week and he has to have different to the other children

2madboys Sun 18-Jan-15 08:27:33

Definitely test for Coeliac if there is a family history. My MIL has it, as does her brother. We think their Dad did (undiagnosed) and DH and our niece both have it. Do not go gluten free before the test as might will give a false negative if he has it.

Iggly Sun 18-Jan-15 08:47:27

I think there's something in soya which mimics female hormones. So not good for boys!

Sophc2511 Sun 18-Jan-15 08:50:31

If he had ceoliacs would he have any other symptoms or could just not sleeping be a symptom ?

I didn't know that about soya ! Quite glad I took him off it now then and glad he wasn't on it for long! Why don't doctors tell you these things ?! When I told the doctor I was taking him off soya he said can of you want but it won't make a difference x

TheGrinchWearsStripes Sun 18-Jan-15 13:52:22

All soya crops are genetically modified, using oestrogen-mimicking modification. Some health trusts don't believe in the idea that it is bad for boys, others subscribe to it. My feeling is, surely better sure than sorry, especially when there are alternatives! We use almond milk. Tried coconut milk on the suggestion of the dietitian, but DS threw his bottle across the room and refused to touch it!

Sophc2511 Sun 18-Jan-15 16:28:46

Do you have to be a certain age to use almond milk ? His back on the formula which I don't mind ATM as he just has it morning and night his nearly 14 months but as he gots older I don't really want to keep him on the formula ! Bit yea like you say about the soya better safe than sorry ! X

Iggly Sun 18-Jan-15 18:10:24

We used calcium enriched oat milk and made sure the DC both had plenty of fat in their diet too. But they were also still bf which helped.

I'd see a dietician if you can.

TheGrinchWearsStripes Sun 18-Jan-15 20:44:46

Almond milk can be used from a year.

NICE guidelines say that any child under 10 who is off dairy should be seen by a dietitian as a matter of course, and if they are under 2 they should be seen as an urgent case within a month. We had to thrust these guidelines under the nose of the gp to get the referral, and then she said "whatever makes you happy" hmm . But it is really worth it if you get an good dietitian, like we did. I am pretty clued up, but she has given me loads of ideas and support - and frankly, just the encouragement that I'm not bonkers! I really recommend agitating for an appointment!

Sophc2511 Sun 18-Jan-15 21:29:50

Well I do feel bonkers myself I feel like nobody believes me about his problems and always say to me his probably just teething that's why his not sleeping and in like he hasent slept his whole life !! Lol thanks for all your help I'm definatly going to try and get a dietician !! I have the health visitor coming round on Tuesday so I'm going to see what help she can offer me aswel ! X

2madboys Mon 19-Jan-15 13:20:00

Hi OP. It's actually possible to have coeliac without any symptoms at all. If it's in your family, you should get tested too. It's important to make coeliac testing a priority before you start cutting anything out because as I said before this could lead to a false negative result. If you or your dc have it, you would be able to access all sorts of extra care, possibly including prescription gf foods, which would be free for your child. The danger of presuming someone doesn't have it because of the lack of outward symptoms, is that they could be doing long term damage without realising it.

2madboys Mon 19-Jan-15 13:27:14

Ok. Just saw you asked about testing for coeliac. This is usually done by a blood test and often followed up with a biopsy to confirm. You can either get a home testing kit online, or go to the GP and ask for the test to be carried out. Dh did a home test, which came back positive. Both our DSs have been tested, one at home, and the other was having other blood tests through the hospital at the time, so we just asked them to include a coeliac test at the same time. Both DSs were negative, but it's also possible to develop the condition later on, so (slightly contradicting what I said above about not always showing symptoms), we were advised to keep an eye out for symptoms later on. In addition to physical symptoms, when DH eats something that is contaminated, he also gets neurological symptoms, such as depression, confusion, and irritability. He doesn't particularly have trouble sleeping, but I wouldn't rule it out as a possible cause as it could presumably be down to stomach pains which your little one couldn't describe to you.

Sophc2511 Mon 19-Jan-15 20:12:56

My doctors are rubbish and won't give him a test but I see my peadiatrocoan in march which is quite far away but I think he will give him one he is a good doctor ! However my doctors have several different doctors there I could try them all and see what they will do ! Thanks for all your help. I didn't know you could get home testing kits !! He does seen a hell of a lot better at night now he isn't on the soya but I do want him tested for everything !! Xx

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