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Flu vaccination

(53 Posts)
Wheresmycaffeinedrip Fri 13-Sep-13 17:49:16

Dd2 has been offered the new flu vaccine nasal spray. I'm at this moment in time unsure as to whether to accept or decline. Mainly because its so new and side effects can include wheezing and high temperatures. Dd1 is asthmatic so obviously the thought that dd2 could have this jab and become wheezy and hospitalised does scare me.

I regret my decision to allow dd1 to have the swine flue jab as she was very ill within days of receiving it and I do not want to make the same mistake again.

So, any positive stories and warnings of side effects you believe were caused by giving your children the vaccination would be gratefully received.

I'm not after debates on vaccinations both mine are fully vaccinated but I do hope you can understand my hesitation.


Wheresmycaffeinedrip Sat 14-Sep-13 00:03:44

Thank you for your post bea sounds awful sad

Don't feel guilty , we make what decision we feel is best with the information we have. We can't ever know what will happen.

There are decisions I regret as I believe they lead to a worse situation but no one can see the future. You did what you felt was best x

BeaWheesht Sat 14-Sep-13 00:05:53

Thanks. I did but I think I didn't really understand how serious flu could be iyswim?

incywincyspideragain Sun 15-Sep-13 21:22:56

In case it helps, here is some more information on the spray being used in the UK
Its a good place to start when looking at a new vaccine - it lists known risks and contraindications

Wheresmycaffeinedrip Sun 15-Sep-13 21:33:47

Thank you smile

Pinklemon Mon 16-Sep-13 09:45:48

Can an unvaccinated child catch flu from a vaccinated child?

BeaWheesht Mon 16-Sep-13 10:07:08

Not afaik Pinklemon.

As I understand it the injected vaccine isn't a live vaccine so can't infect others and according to what I've read nor can the nasal spray.

Pinklemon Mon 16-Sep-13 10:12:36

I'm undecided. I've spoken to my friend who lives in US, they only get the needle vaccines and not the nasal spray vaccines, although the nasal ones have been used in US for years.

Pinklemon Mon 16-Sep-13 10:56:20

I'm undecided. I've spoken to my friend who lives in US, they only get the needle vaccines and not the nasal spray vaccines, although the nasal ones have been used in US for years.

incywincyspideragain Wed 18-Sep-13 00:31:04

*pinklemon the spray is a live attenuated (weaker) virus - the insert states that those receiving the spray should stay away from immuno compromised people for 2 weeks after they receive the spray, that would suggest it can be passed on

Wheresmycaffeinedrip Wed 18-Sep-13 07:12:09

That part worries me. Dd1 is asthmatic and hasn't been offered a vaccination. Being sisters I can't keep them apart and the last thing she needs is the risk of catching it from dd2 through the vaccination.

BeaWheesht Wed 18-Sep-13 07:49:50

Why hasn't she been offered it? If she's asthmatic she's entitled to it.

Wheresmycaffeinedrip Wed 18-Sep-13 07:53:13

Cos it's for kids aged 2-3 dd1 is 7

Ginformation Wed 18-Sep-13 14:38:04

Your 7yo will be offered flu jab as she is in a risk group (as previous years). it will probably be the injection this year, but in the future all children above 2 will be offered the nasal vaccine. In some areas older children are getting the nasal version as a pilot which will be rolled out nationally.

BeaWheesht Wed 18-Sep-13 19:53:23

Ds is nearly 7 he gets the flu jag because of his asthma - have you never been offered it? That's a big oversight - call and book one ASAP ( if you want one )

Wheresmycaffeinedrip Wed 18-Sep-13 19:58:22

We haven't been offered one in 4 years. Maybe they don't send letters out any more and that's why.

Her asthma has been pretty quiet past year or so which is but maybe that's why too.

incywincyspideragain Wed 18-Sep-13 20:04:21

Reading the package insert your dd1 should not be offered the nasal spray at any point as its contraindicative for children with asthma (really not meaning to be rude, and i mean that sincerely, but little concerned ginformation that as a GP you have said to the op that her dd1 will have the spray in subsequent yrs that's not what the fluenz information says)
Sorry that doesn't help your concern about transmission from dd2 to dd1 - I would suggest in reality no one really knows, the advice from manufacturer will be precautionary but you should take it on board when making your decision, if you did want then both vaccinated could you ask for both to have a jab? No sure if that's an option

Wheresmycaffeinedrip Wed 18-Sep-13 20:17:00

That's actually what I was thinking. Giving them both the jabs if drs agree. Plus I think it would be easier to inject quickly rather than shove up a nostril.

Ginformation Wed 18-Sep-13 22:05:00

incywincy the nasal vaccine is only contraindicated for those with severe asthma with clearly defined criteria defining this. No offence taken on my part, but perhaps you should check your facts love wink

Sirzy Wed 18-Sep-13 22:13:54

Gin - do you have a link to the criteria? DS is 3 and been offered the nasal spray as part of that campaign BUT he also has severe asthma so I want to make sure he gets the right one!

BadRoly Wed 18-Sep-13 22:20:40

Wheresmycaffeine - dc4 gets a flu jab each year because he has a heart condition. We only had a letter from our old GP surgery but never from this one.

However he has had a vaccination each year as I phone the surgery and ask if he should have one and they've always said yes!

I don't know if I'm just organised enough to get in before they send letters our or if they just don't bother with letters anymore?

Ginformation Wed 18-Sep-13 22:21:22

Not on me now sirzy (I have a personal policy of not logging onto my work email when I have a week off grin ) but if you ask for a telephone consultation with your practice nurse, they should be able to tell you which is the best vaccine for you. All practice nurses who will be delivering the vaccine have been offered training as it is new (but used for the last 10 years in USA). Unless there is a practice nurse lurking here?

Sirzy Wed 18-Sep-13 22:23:53

They had him booked for the spray but cancelled and said to book again at the end of the month. I am wondering if they realised they had booked him for the wrong one! I will check when we rebook. His is pretty severe (not controlled on high dose seretide plus other meds) so I am guessing sticking the the injection will be best for him.

incywincyspideragain Wed 18-Sep-13 22:32:28

not offended either as when I'm wrong I do need to check my facts smile nothing worse than miss information about vaccines and medication imo!
I missed the OP's description of her dd's asthma but picked up on the fact she had it - of course you are right the insert states 'severe' I would be interested to understand the criteria and why that criteria isn't on the insert also, if the manufacturer has stated severe the interpretation of that should be a universal one from them based on their trials and studies... one to ask our practise nurse smile

Ginformation Wed 18-Sep-13 22:42:19

We don't send out letters until after the initial stampede. Most know when flu season is. The newer risk groups all get invites as they may not realise they are eligible. We do put up posters, message on repeat prescription slips and website etc. there will also be a DoH campaign this year too.

If someone has a history of asthma but not needed inhalers for the last year, they may no longer be eligible/need for flu jab.

Ginformation Wed 18-Sep-13 22:46:05

Think you might be right sirzy. Hang on, will see what I can find re criteria...

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