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All of you who CHOOSE not to vaccinate your children

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UniqueAndAmazing Sat 13-Apr-13 10:34:57

Do you realise that's the reason why there's now an epidemic of measles in Wales?

You know children with auto-immune problems, children with cancers, children with allergies that mean they can't be medicated, children who react badly to drugs?
You know them? They're suffering because of you not wanting to vaccinate your child.

You have no medical reason for not vaccinating, but plenty of reasons TO vaccinate.

You are causing a whole generation of children to be endangered from a preventable disease.

Measles can be fatal
(that means it can kill )

UniqueAndAmazing Sat 13-Apr-13 15:33:24

why are so many people just coming on to say "pointless stirring" ?

I'm not stirring.
Stirring was the last thing from my mind when I posted.
If you don't have anything valuable to add to the argument, then please refrain form posting.

UniqueAndAmazing Sat 13-Apr-13 15:34:02

Farely - so far not, but vaccinated children can still get it.
They're just more likely to get a milder version and are less likely to get the complications.

HazardLamps Sat 13-Apr-13 15:39:17

Please try not to tell adults members of a public forum to refrain from posting. It doesn't work like that.

That your thread is considered by some posters to be pointless stirring is a valid response, regardless of whether or not you consider it valuable.

SchroSawMargeryDaw Sat 13-Apr-13 15:40:44

I agree.

I have immuno compromised family members and this worries me.

The other week before all this came out my DS had suspected measles, even with the rash etc they said it couldn't be because he is vaccinated but the panic once they realised that I am pg!

It was quite scary.

daisymama Sat 13-Apr-13 15:40:48

Please read my blog post about this - I was left deaf in one ear from measles and my immunosuppressed daughter is left at risk - please get your child vaccinated, Wakefield was wrong - end of

seeker Sat 13-Apr-13 15:43:37

Good post, OP.

rubyrubyruby Sat 13-Apr-13 15:45:16

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

HazardLamps Sat 13-Apr-13 15:47:31

Wow, rubyrubyruby. If you'd been told all that (and this) by your husband all MN would be telling you he's a control freak and advising that you leave the bastard. wink

SchroSawMargeryDaw Sat 13-Apr-13 15:48:46

Ruby I have no idea why you were told those other things, that doesn't seem right.

Choosing not to vaccinate should always be challenged though as it is a decision that doesn't only affect the child who isn't having the jabs, it has the potential to put others in extreme danger.

UniqueAndAmazing Sat 13-Apr-13 15:49:00

Hazard - you're right, but it just seems like such a waste of posting space, when they could back it up as to why they think I'm pointlessly stirring (especially as I had already pointed out that I am not stirring)

ruby - I don't mind whether you work or not. I personally think it's better for the family for everyone to do what's right - a miserable SAHP is just as bad as a miserable WOHP.
I think you sdhould spend your money how you see fit within your means.
I think that everybody has a responsibility to make sure their children are vaccinated, so that there is adequate protection for those who can't be. (in much the same way as the NHS provides healthcare for all, even those who don't pay into the system and it's there even when there are people that never use it)

UniqueAndAmazing Sat 13-Apr-13 15:49:54

and everything that Schro said.

seeker Sat 13-Apr-13 15:50:07

Good post, OP.

UniqueAndAmazing Sat 13-Apr-13 15:50:28

(but you should buy books. preferably from your local bookseller)

infamouspoo Sat 13-Apr-13 15:52:21

why is it your business OP? My dd cannot be vaccinated for MEDICAL reasons. I wouldnt dream of telling other people what to do regarding vaccination or insist they make their child undergo a medical procedure for the benefit of mine.

mummysmellsofsick Sat 13-Apr-13 15:56:10

What a judgemental OP. I don't think anyone takes decisions like vaccination lightly, without regard for others. After all, non vaxers are more at risk from lower herd immunity than most people are. Please remember that people have reasons for the decisions they make that you might be unaware of.

rubyrubyruby Sat 13-Apr-13 15:56:14

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

HazardLamps Sat 13-Apr-13 15:56:24

And that ^ ^ from infamouspoo is the crux of the matter, isn't it? No-one can give a convincing reason why a parent should consider the health and welfare of somebody else's child to be more important than the wellbeing of their own.

seeker Sat 13-Apr-13 15:58:16

Of course there are children who cannot, for sound medical reasons, be vaccinated. But that is all the more reason why the rest of us should vaccinate- to create the herd immunity necessary to protect them.

rubyrubyruby Sat 13-Apr-13 15:58:20

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

WouldBeHarrietVane Sat 13-Apr-13 16:00:20

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

bobsnotabuilder Sat 13-Apr-13 16:01:03

Agree with OP.

seeker Sat 13-Apr-13 16:01:40

" No-one can give a convincing reason why a parent should consider the health and welfare of somebody else's child to be more important than the wellbeing of their own."

Because a) I consider my children feeling a bit poorly for a day or so to be worth it to protect others who might actually die if they catch whatever it is.

b) my child might be one of the few who get hideous complications from measles or mumps, and being a bit unwell for a day or so to be worth it to protect them from that risk.

UniqueAndAmazing Sat 13-Apr-13 16:02:39

mummy - the only reason I will accept as reasonable is the medical one.

The MMR scare was bollocks, unsubstantiated and very quickly denounced.
the scare the jabs lasted a lot longer than the report itself.

seeker Sat 13-Apr-13 16:03:24

Oh, and when people say they want more information from HCPs, I suspect what they mean is they want to be told that the vaccine is 100% risk free. Which it isn't- nothing is. So they won't be told it is.

UniqueAndAmazing Sat 13-Apr-13 16:04:02

infamouspoo - i think if you read my OP and all my other posts, you will find that I have actually listed that people who an't be vaccinated for medical reasons are at risk from those who choose not to do it.

FFS, I've started a whole fucking thread to support you and your family and you've just slagged my off about it.

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