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Do i take DS to the GP? High temp and possible UTI

(37 Posts)
JarethTheGoblinKing Mon 01-Aug-11 12:44:21

Temp was 39.5 last night, its gone down a little bit but he's still roasting. He's complaining that it hurts when he wees; do I need to take him to the doc or wait and see if it clears up?

Going to give the surgery a ring when they open again at 2 but wanted to gauge opinion here first

Jacksterbear Mon 01-Aug-11 12:45:46

Yes, UTIs need seeing more urgently in boys (so I have been advised on here before).

ShowOfHands Mon 01-Aug-11 12:46:57

Yup, UTIs always need seeing, particularly in a boy.

Can you try and get a sample from him?

Marne Mon 01-Aug-11 12:47:54

Deffently take him, the longer you leave it the worse it will get and the infection could spread to his kidneys. He needs antibiotics and then he will be fine in a day or 2.

Bunbaker Mon 01-Aug-11 12:50:00

Ditto the others. UTIs should never be ignored. Make sure you take a urine sample with you

JarethTheGoblinKing Mon 01-Aug-11 12:50:22

Thank you, I'll definitely ring this PM. He only mentioned it yesterday so not had it for long.

Can UTIs cause raging temps like this? He's never had a temp before so wasn't sure how to deal with it

Jacksterbear Mon 01-Aug-11 12:52:21

Yep fever = sign of infection

Bunbaker Mon 01-Aug-11 12:53:50

"Can UTIs cause raging temps like this? He's never had a temp before so wasn't sure how to deal with it"

Yes. DD's temp went up to over 41 with a UTI - she ended up in hospital. Untreated UTIs have serious implications so I would ring your GP now. Tell the receptionist you suspect a UTI and say it is urgent. Don't be fobbed off.

ShowOfHands Mon 01-Aug-11 12:53:59

Yes the fever is a sign that his body is fighting an infection. It's a good thing in a lot of ways. His body is responding.

JarethTheGoblinKing Mon 01-Aug-11 13:06:46

The surgery is closed for lunch but ill get an appt for this afternoon. Don't worry, I'm not the type to be fobbed off and tbh they're usually pretty good smile

Only left it this morning because he seemed loads better, he's playing quite happily

JarethTheGoblinKing Mon 01-Aug-11 13:07:46

Was strange in a way, he's 3.5 and has never had a temp over 37 before

going Mon 01-Aug-11 13:09:02

Definaltey take him. DD1 had a UTI at that age and really suffered. Unusal for a boy to get one so will probably need investigating.

JarethTheGoblinKing Mon 01-Aug-11 14:05:28

I love our GP surgery, just called them and he has an appt in 40 mins, didn't even need to push for it grin

Thanks all for the advice, I had no idea that a UTI could cause such a high temp or could be so serious. Had a look on NHS Direct as well which was very useful

JarethTheGoblinKing Mon 01-Aug-11 15:28:04

Strange, no bacterial infection so the doc doesn't really know what's wrong. He said it could be a viral infection but very unlikely confused

sad

ShowOfHands Mon 01-Aug-11 15:33:21

Has he sent off a urine sample for analysis? Did he look at his penis? No redness, soreness or swelling that you can see?

It's also possible that the infection is elsewhere (and it could be viral as opposed to bacterial). The other thing to bear in mind is when children are ill or feverish, they often can't pinpoint where it hurts so when he says it hurts to wee, it might not be anything to do with that at all and could be a different part of his body entirely or it may have hurt once and he's just made the connection.

What did the gp advise? If he's in pain give him medication (ibuprofen is often better than calpol as long as he's ok to have it ie not asthmatic for example), keep him cool and stripped off, lots of fluids and monitor how warm he is and how he's behaving. If at all concerned see somebody else.

It could just be a virus. How old is he? Has he really never been poorly with a temp before?

JarethTheGoblinKing Mon 01-Aug-11 15:41:27

He tested a urine sample with those strips, nothing came up on it. He didn't send one off. He didn't look at his penis, no. I've had a look and can't see any redness at all though. He's very specific about when it hurts and exactly where - that is hurts when he stops weeing, and that it's the sides that hurt. He keeps saying that his tummy hurts though, which I thought would imply UTI.

He gave him some canesten cream in case it's a fungal infection that's hurting (and DS has just said he's itchy, so could well be that). That wouldn't explain the high temp though confused

He's 3.8, never been really ill before, never had a temp at all.

ShowOfHands Mon 01-Aug-11 15:43:55

They do say their tummies hurt. Regardless of what the problem is, particularly when feverish.

I know it's perfectly possible to have a dipstick show up nothing but a lab to analyse and find it is an infection after all. Depends on a lot of factors as to why it doesn't show up in the urine.

How is he atm?

JarethTheGoblinKing Mon 01-Aug-11 15:46:46

GP did say to give it 2/3 days and if no better then to come back.

He's alright, sitting on the sofa eating cheerios, so can't be too bad grin
He's absolutely boiling though. Trying to hold off with the calpol as he seems OK in himself at the moment (will save it for tonight when he can't settle)

ShowOfHands Mon 01-Aug-11 15:49:56

grin Sounds like he's muddling though.

Meds are good if they're in pain or uncomfortable but if he's not complaining you're right to hold off, just keep him in loose clothing, make sure some air's circulating (window open or fan on in the room, though not directly on him), lots to drink and keep an eye out.

The fact that he's hot is a good sign believe it or not, as long as it's not making him unwell in itself. His body IS fighting whatever it is.

ShowOfHands Mon 01-Aug-11 15:50:50

DD had the odd cold btw here and there, no notable illness until she was 3.8 btw. She started preschool. Or germschool as it should be called...

JarethTheGoblinKing Mon 01-Aug-11 16:01:53

smile

DS has been at nursery since about 1yo! He brings back a different cold/cough every week but I'm hoping that by the time he starts school he'll be immune to most things grin

ugh.. it's just annoying, I wont dose him with anything until much later on, but will prob give him a full dose of calpol so he can get some decent sleep

thanks smile

Jacksterbear Mon 01-Aug-11 16:11:34

DS had exactly the same symptoms (plus he was wetting himself) at pretty much the same age... took him to OOH GP who also said there was no sign of infection on testing urine... he was fine within a day or two and we never established what it was.

Sounds like you are doing the right thing to keep a close eye and give calpol when needed.

JarethTheGoblinKing Mon 01-Aug-11 18:16:06

Oh I feel such an idiot, I've just looked down his throat and its all red and swollen... so, does tonsilitis need ABs or will that go on its own

shrinkingnora Mon 01-Aug-11 18:26:12

Bacterial tonsilitis will need antibiotics - can you see any white spots o nhis throat? Ibuprofen is really good for that kind of thing and you can alternate with the paracetomol. Hope he feels better soon.

JarethTheGoblinKing Mon 01-Aug-11 18:29:04

Yeah, it looks exactly like the tonsilitis photo on wiki, swollen lumps with yellowy white bits on them

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