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Children's health

Viral pneumonia help

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LargeGlassofRed · 25/05/2011 22:51

dt1 has viral pneumonia was in hospital last wed for 36 hours. He's not getting much better and his breathing has been worse today.

The Gp saw him this afternoon and his Sats were 94, he's going to check them again tomorrow and maybe re-admit if still low.
He's been asleep since 6.45 but still breathing fast 50 Breaths per min, snd is clammy to touch.
He half wakes up moaning every now and then but is shattered.

Anyone had experience of this?

Btw he's been in steroids and an inhalour and has had a temp.

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LargeGlassofRed · 26/05/2011 05:25

Bump for day time, exhausted.com

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Sirzy · 26/05/2011 07:18

How old is he?

I would go straight back to a and e tbh rather than the gp. When Ds is ill 92 is the cut off where they start him on oxygen so I would want it monitored somewhere with the oxygen if needed.

Hope he is better today but don't hesitate to take him back if worried.

LargeGlassofRed · 26/05/2011 07:26

Thanks sirzy, he's 23 months. He's perked up at the moment still very pale and grunting but playing at the moment. It seams to be everytime his temp goes up his breathing gets worse. I gave him ibrophen (sp) at 5am and inhalour at 6am. Will keep watching him closely, his poor brother has the same bug too but without the scary breathing.

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LargeGlassofRed · 26/05/2011 11:27

His temperatures up and his breathings got bad again, very fast and grunting. :-(

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Sirzy · 26/05/2011 11:29

Take him to a an e, they can monitor his breathing and sats and treat as needed.

LargeGlassofRed · 26/05/2011 15:56

Thanks, have been back to gp, He listened to his chest which us clear but sats still 92 93. !

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Galena · 26/05/2011 18:46

I agree that A&E is probably better than GP. Our GP simply sends us to the hospital anyway, but I know a lot don't and I'd prefer to be somewhere with the oxygen and so on.

DeWe · 26/05/2011 20:20

When dd1 (age 8 at the time) had pneumonia they wanted her SATS on 97% or higher. Wait until gp closed and go to A&E.

LargeGlassofRed · 26/05/2011 20:40

thanks going to keep checking him over the next hour, he's fast asleep and exhausted, have got grandparents on standby

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sneezecakesmum · 26/05/2011 21:26

Certainly get him more help (A&E would be most appropriate) if you are in any way concerned (more than already I mean!). Please be aware that little ones compensate breathing wise for a long time ie carry on playing despite the breathlessness, and then suddenly keel over. If his breathing is laboured take him to A&E.

While he's asleep look on UTube
and
If he's doing any of these breathing patterns he needs A&E

LargeGlassofRed · 26/05/2011 21:42

thanks sneezecake, those videos very useful, just checked on him again breathing about 42 times a minute and neck going in a little but not as much as video

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sneezecakesmum · 26/05/2011 22:06

24 - 40 is normal in 1-3 year olds. It will increase with fever. Aren't poorly babes a nightmare You will age 10 years overnight!

Knackeredmother · 26/05/2011 22:17

NICE guidelines are sats of 92% need pediatric assessment in hospital. How do you know it is viral? He needs a chest x ray, resps of 40 is high.
Children can deteriorate quickly, Aand E is hell but I would get him checked.
Your instinct as a mother trumps everything.
I hope he gets well soon

LargeGlassofRed · 26/05/2011 22:19

thanks, yes there's nothing worse :( , he doesn't have a temp at the moment, so will just keep checking him every half hour.
This bug started 2 weeks ago and both twins have it and ds, but only dt1 with the breathing problems, I've gone through bottles of ibruphen and calpol.
Just praying the girls don't get it too.

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Knackeredmother · 26/05/2011 22:22

Just seen you were in hospital a week ago. You def need to be seen as he is not improving, make sure you let docs know he is grunting. This can be a sign of working hard to breathe.
I hope I haven't worried you but I would want you seen in hospital if you were my patient ( and my son has had about 15 admissions for similar so I know first hand how awful it is).

LargeGlassofRed · 26/05/2011 22:23

thanks knackeredmother, he had a chest x-ray when he was in last week and doctor said it showed viral pneumonia

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vigglewiggle · 26/05/2011 22:24

I second the 'order' to get him down to A & E. I've just got back from a few days in hospital with DD2 with a similar thing. Her waking sats were above the 94%, but at night her oxygen levels dropped dramatically. You need to get him properly assessed again i'm afraid.

Hulababy · 26/05/2011 22:39

Viral pnuemonia can develop into bacterial pnuemonia I think, so would def go back to a&e and have him checked. Night time can be worse than day so may be a good time to go.

Hope he feels better soon.

LargeGlassofRed · 26/05/2011 22:46

just waiting for gp out of hours to call back, its based next to a and e at the hospital

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LargeGlassofRed · 26/05/2011 23:09

Off to a and e :(

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vigglewiggle · 26/05/2011 23:12

Good luck.

ScarlettWalking · 26/05/2011 23:21

Good luck hope he is better soon

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Galena · 27/05/2011 07:19

Hope he's getting the treatment he needs and that he'll be better soon.

LargeGlassofRed · 27/05/2011 07:52

Thanks all, his breathing got much better when sat up and awake and Sats at hospital were 98 and breathing ok. Took him home and checked through the night and much faster when lying down?
Seams ok this morning, still grunting and pale but playing.

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Galena · 27/05/2011 08:17

Glad to hear he's feeling a bit better. I realise I'm probably telling you something you already have done, but have you propped up the head end of his cot/bed? If he's worse when lying down, maybe he'd be better not completely flat.

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