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Autumn Term at the Chalet School

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Vintagejazz Thu 25-Sep-14 11:19:11

Just starting a new thread here as I can't spot a new one.

So my lambs feel free to keep spreading the hanes, but watch the slang!

NellWilsonsWhiteHair Thu 25-Sep-14 11:27:24

Gruss gott leiblings! And thanks for the new thread OOAOVJ.

DeWee Thu 25-Sep-14 12:20:35

Gruss Gott. Is it German day? Oh help I never learnt any!

NellWilsonsWhiteHair Thu 25-Sep-14 12:45:38

Not to worry DeWee you will pick it up in no time by osmosis. We will all speak slowly to you and then obviously you'll understand. Probably the American girls will use some kind of polyglot language and some uppity patriotic Brit girl will refuse. But you'll all be trilingual Chalet girls in the end, even when you're 90!

Vintagejazz Thu 25-Sep-14 12:50:57

We will just make you keep repeating everything several times until it sinks in De Wee. And then we'll do the same with French tomorrow. By the time English day comes around you won't know whether you're coming or going.

But yes, you will be chattering away in fluent German in about two weeks time. smile

hels71 Thu 25-Sep-14 13:28:37

And if you're not then you will just be penniless!!!

RueDeWakening Thu 25-Sep-14 13:31:31

I learnt all my German from reading CS books grin Ich verschte nicht. Or something.

Vintagejazz Thu 25-Sep-14 13:46:17

In fairness hels71 I'm sure all those fines went to a worthwhile charity and not a piss up in the staffroom

DeWee Thu 25-Sep-14 13:50:38

I think I'll just imitate Verity Ann and be silent.

DeWee Thu 25-Sep-14 13:51:13


Trickydecision Thu 25-Sep-14 13:59:49

Talking of speaking, or more accurately hearing, will someone, ideally with their own earphones of hair, tell us to what extent they muffle ordinary sounds. Surely they must be an impediment to clarity and rather impractical though possibly making the racket from eleven children tolerable.

hels71 Thu 25-Sep-14 14:25:00

They go the the maybe by using the wrong language or slang we would actually be doing other people a favour..

Vintagejazz Thu 25-Sep-14 14:41:22

Good point hels. I am nothing if not charitable.

Flappingandflying Thu 25-Sep-14 15:53:51

Gruss Gott. Where are the cakes? Just reading Peggy at the mo. I always think of her as fair and she is described as such but as a child she was dark haired (I think). And who is this strange girl who was in the Special sixth but made such a hash of being Head Girl. Tha t episode is not in any book. Where did she fit in? Inbetween which head girl?

NellWilsonsWhiteHair Thu 25-Sep-14 16:00:39

Ah that's Marilyn Evans Flapping my lamb who dared to put her own academic aspirations ahead of her duty to the school. We do not speak of her. grin I'm too hazy on the details by that point in the series to say exactly when it is she was head girl though, sorry. ISTR Peggy was always fair, and Rix dark (in the compulsory way for multiple birth children to be identical with different colouring) - certainly in the Camp frontispiece which I rather love, she's shown as fair.

NellWilsonsWhiteHair Thu 25-Sep-14 16:06:27

In New/United, when it comes out that Mlle is really very ill, there is this -

"Cornelia departed, and Matron arrived half an hour later with the milk; saw her talk it; then made her lie down, covered her up, and stooping, kissed her, ‘I know, Corney,’ she said. ‘I’ve only this for you, child. As one door shuts, another opens. And Mademoiselle want you girls to face it as bravely as she is doing. Goodnight, dear.’

Cornelia turned enormous blue eyes on her. ‘Guess I – feel ‘sif – my mother – ‘ She stopped, unable to go further; and Matron, with a final pat, left her, knowing that Corney would feel everlastingly disgraced if anyone saw her cry.

All the same, the coming years were to show her a true prophetess, and Cornelia was to have such mothering as even Mademoiselle had never given her."

Does anyone know what the future reference is to - the other door that opens for Corney? Who is supposed to mother her? Does it actually come to pass, or does this thread get dropped in all the changes of Exile ?
At the end of this chapter, she has a quite nice moment on the roof with Jo - is it Jo EBD had in mind as a new maternal figure, in spite of their v close ages?

hels71 Thu 25-Sep-14 16:22:23

I always assumed it was Madge but i don't know why I think that.

Vintagejazz Thu 25-Sep-14 16:46:03

I don't recall Madge taking on Cornelia as one of her wards/waifs/long lost relatives. And Joey wouldn't really have been that much older than Cornelia.
Did they mean Miss Annersley or Bill or maybe just the staff in general?

Most probably though it was some storyline EBD had in her head and then the War and the necessity to tie the books in with that made her forget all about it.

DeWee Thu 25-Sep-14 17:26:37

I'm not sure EBD thought about storylines that far in advance to have the war spoil them. grin I think it was just a comforting throwaway line that she probably intended to follow up, but even if the war hadn't got in the way, she wouldn't.

It also came out of nowhere to me. It would have been better if you'd seen some signs of Corney really looking up to her, or also, when she was ill, really missing her. But we just have the two things, that one, and Corney fainting when she's told she'd died. I suppose that was a case of EBD following a story line up though, which totally contradicts what I just said.

NellWilsonsWhiteHair Thu 25-Sep-14 17:43:27

Yeah but you're right - it's something EBD says (twice) but doesn't actually substantiate, which isn't so uncommon!

Mlle is often conspicuous by her absence though, through most of her leadership: my theory is that as far in advance as Eustacia, EBD had already decided Miss Annersley was destined for the headship (which is interesting if it's true, because it only happens after the first twelve books originally commissioned/otherwise intended as a series).

morningtoncrescent62 Thu 25-Sep-14 19:18:17

Now I've always thought that Eustacia is the one book where Mademoiselle starts to be seen as a character in her own right, developing that famous motherliness. So I didn't see that as the point where EBD decides the future is Hilda-shaped, but I think it must have happened soon after, because we don't see much of Mademoiselle in the next books. I always wondered, also, why Mademoiselle doesn't get the courtesy title of Madame when Madge leaves.

Help, I don't think I can reason from cause to effect in German. I give up. Anyone want to play noughts and crosses with me in prep instead? If we do it on our mobile phones the duty pree will never notice.

EatingMyWords Thu 25-Sep-14 19:23:42

Tricky I haven't got headphone hair but I have got hearing aids and I have turned them off when the whining/shouting got too much so I can see the muffling being useful grin

EElisavetaofBelsornia Thu 25-Sep-14 19:27:58

Ooh I would Mornington, except that Vintage is the pree on duty, and she's most awfully on.the spot.

I have just read A Thrilling Term At Janeways - is this really EBD? Apart from having twins called Melody and Harmony, and five sisters all called Phil (I'm not making this up), there is witchcraft, looted monastic treasure, a corpse and a very inappropriate Rector. No Catholics, 'delicacy' or handsome young doctors in sight!

EElisavetaofBelsornia Thu 25-Sep-14 19:31:49

Hang on, I've just re-read the description of the twins: "the one who led the way was fair, with flaxen hair, a pale skin and blue-grey eyes; the other was dark and vivid and gipsyish". Of course it's EBD! grin

hels71 Thu 25-Sep-14 20:08:49

There is a sequel to that one you know. I think it is Caroline the Second. And is that the one with the spot supper song??

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