hi my niece from newcastle is going to start looking for a NANNY JOB IN LONDON she has replied to a job in wimbledon which sounds very complicated but will work 8-7 5days a week what shoould she expect (i nannied for 16yrs)she has experience but not as nanny lots of babysitting and shes such a loving girl and brilliant with kids .please can someone give me an idea so when she comes up for interveiws she has an idea i live not far from wimbledon so would be nice for her to be near me!
Why would it depend on the children's ages? and the duties? Nannies are paid per hour, not per task.
If she is young (under 23) and has no proper nanny experience and not qualifications in nannying, and no University degrees, then she should expect around £250+ for a full time live in roll in this climate. I assume the 5 days are Mon-Fri.
That's true, but those experienced and well qualified nannies won't be prepared to work for 250/week (and I mean that as a gross figure). SO, if she wants to break into nannying and is prepared to work for less, she could well find her opportunuty to get some experience and start building her CV.
Well I'm of the opinion it's the employer who offers the salary.
She's being exploited if she works for less than £200 gross, £250 gross would be fair and £300 gross would be a good deal. If she can do an NVQ or something while she nannies then I'd advise her to take a small paycut this time for a big potential benefit later if she's serious.
It depends on her age, what she's done before, CRB, first aid, what extra she's willing to do to make herself really stand out etc.
Have I got this right? Job is 11 hours a day, 5 days a week, so 55 hours a week. Even at £250 a week NET this works out at £4.54 an hour, which for a live out job, is illegal. Like Blondes said, if she lives in she will not be eligible for the minimum wage but I think even somebody very young and new to nannying deserves to earn at least £5 per hour!
I also agree with Blondes that nannying is totally different to babysitting, and not to be taken lightly. I already had loads of experience babysitting before I studied for my NNEB diploma and I also did a bit of nannying while I was studying but working as a full time nanny, day in, day out with a very young child was a totally new experience and I found I still had so much to learn!
I too agree with Blondes that nannying is totally different to occassional babysitting.
However, I disagree with your analysis on the pay. Minimum wage is a figure designed to be the minum one could realistically live on (rent, food, utilities, etc.). But a live-in employee has all of these things already paid. Presumably this is why they are exempt from minumum wage laws. If you want to compare a live out gross wage to live-in gross wage you would have to add onto the £250 the value of the rent, food, her share of utilities, gym membership, etc. And when you are finished with that math I think you will find the live-in nanny with £250 per week is a quite a bit better off then the live-out nanny with say £350 gross per week.
I'm sure I read somewhere recently that live-in employees aren't exempt from minimum wage exactly, it's that accomodation can be put towards making up minimum wage - but there's a limit on how much you can claim the accomodation is "worth". I'll try to look up the exact wording of it.
"Minimum wage is a figure designed to be the minum one could realistically live on" - not sure I agree with that! Even that right wing buffoon Boris Johnson accepts that £7.60 an hour is the minimum you need to live on in London. £5.75 is a poverty wage.
Of course that is the intent of it. Whether you feel it should be raised is another matter. But, the point of a minimum wage is to have figure which no one can legally work below. And, I assume, that the cost of living (rent, etc.) is a large part of the process which determines that figure.
From Direct.gov.uk: Living in your employers household If you are a member of your employers family, live in their home and help run a family business or help with household chores, you are not entitled to the NMW if you share in the familys tasks and activities.
If you are not a member of your employers family but you live in their home and share in the households work and leisure activities, for example if you are an au pair, you are not entitled to the NMW.
some time ago, well in 2006, i found this sentence somewhere on the web regarding live in nannies and cost of accomodation. . 'The Offset allowance for nannies for whom separate accommodation is provided is now £26.25 per 40 hour week or more'i dont remeber where it is from and cant find it now.
could have been from nanny tax, which has this webpage regarding nmw for live in nannies http://www.nannytax.co.uk/parents/employment-costs/national-minimum-wage
thanks for all your advice ladies i think i have talked her out of it as she is earning good money at moment and will not start on good money with no qualifications,i really enjoyed nannying .also thanks superduper jezabel that would have been bril if she had taken up the job but it was an au pair job and only offering 100.00 a week.