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Is the current economic climate affecting childminders?

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KatyMac Mon 28-Jul-08 20:58:19

For better or for worse?

Does it depend upon area?

I have less children than I have ever had.....even less tan my first year

So am I doing something wrong?
Or is it a result of the economic climate?

Any thoughts?

navyeyelasH Mon 28-Jul-08 21:00:53

The child minder I work with is busier than ever (In Bristol) and has a waiting list until 2010!

But a good portion of hers are younger siblings if that makes sense? So I think it's a combination of good luck and the area not being that badly affected (yet?).

Sorry to hear you are struggling KatyMac, just stay positive I guess? x

KatyMac Mon 28-Jul-08 21:06:22

I thought either
1) more people going out to work meaning more childcare needed; or
2) more people going on to benefits so less childcare needed

I wasn't sure which would prevale - but currently the second is more visible

BoysAreLikeDogs Mon 28-Jul-08 21:08:27

Not yet.

CMs are like hen's teeth around here, I am full. (SW ENgland, v rural area)

Katy, have a think about doing a SWOT analysis

(hark at me)

Think about

Strengths - could be your

Weaknesses - unable to offer shift work/late finishes, that sort of thing

Opportunities - using your training notes/network CMs for sounding board/exploring a gap in the market

Threats - cheaper rates locally/nursery nearby/new after school club

How can you turn things around?

Advertising blitz/talk to PN group at HVs office?

I do hope you don't think I am being patronising.

KatyMac Mon 28-Jul-08 21:14:23

Not at all BALD

Food - quality/variety
Team - less sickness/holidays more opportunities/working together

Cost - relatively high
Opening - 7:30-6 (not negotiable - well I could open at 7 & have when asked)
Need to earn to keep paying wages

Opportunities - don't know maybe

New children's centre
disgruntled parent (there was one last year)
Other C/Mers not liking our set-up

Not sure where I can go with this - but I'll add to it if I can

BoysAreLikeDogs Mon 28-Jul-08 21:16:57

Now look again at your list and focus on the good bits -

THAT is where you pitch your advertising at.

So -

Unique set up

can you see where I am going with this?

fishie Mon 28-Jul-08 21:18:35

mine wants to put up her rates by £2.50 a day from september. so perhaps some are being affected differently than others hmm

KatyMac Mon 28-Jul-08 21:25:13

BALD - have you got my email or have I got yours?

I can send you my brochure & you can critic (should there be an accent in there or is it spelt differently)it

KatyMac Mon 28-Jul-08 21:26:15

Fishie 2.50 a day is a lot - 25p an hour?

When did she last put them up?

BoysAreLikeDogs Mon 28-Jul-08 21:27:24

Katy it is

j u p o w e l l a t h o t m a i l d o t c o m

Relace the a t with @


KatyMac Mon 28-Jul-08 21:30:14

Fingers crossed it works

jimjamshaslefttheyurt Mon 28-Jul-08 21:31:01

katymac I know you think your local area needs you to register as a foster carer to look after kids with special needs but you really don't if the parents are paying you with direct payments. (It's nothing to do with social services then- the parents can employ who they like). I'd put some adverts up in the local child development centre. Once word gets out that you take children with SN you will be overrun. I get direct payments and my biggest problem is finding someone willling to take ds1. Even before getting direct payments that was a my biggest problem.

BoysAreLikeDogs Mon 28-Jul-08 21:31:40

Got email, will have a squizz


KatyMac Mon 28-Jul-08 21:37:39

Thanks Jimjams - I will see if I can find a child development centre

I have found a tentative contact with the SS children with disabilities team - which I am following up atm

Thanks BALD - is it spelt 'critique'?

fishie Mon 28-Jul-08 21:38:25

currently £35 a day without evening meal, £40 with (inc 45mins later stay)
8.30-5.30 or 6.15, every other friday off. ds is 3.3 so not at school for another year.
london (of course)

KatyMac Mon 28-Jul-08 21:42:03

I think you're not doing too badly tbh

I am in rural Norfolk & I would charge £40 for that blush

The rise takes it above what I charge but I'm not in London but I agree it's a lot in one jump

BoysAreLikeDogs Mon 28-Jul-08 21:43:57

Critique is correct smile

have emailed you, Katy

fishie Mon 28-Jul-08 21:49:28

thank you katymac, sorry to hijack your thread but would like to ask you and other cms...

i am hoping to negotiate that if we pay the extra she will do the other two (three) days till 6.15 + grub as well, do you think that is taking piss? it actually causes probs for her when ds goes at 5.30 because she has to feed the others (older) then in order to get them out so she is seeing ds off, serving up etc.

KatyMac Mon 28-Jul-08 21:54:12

So you will pay 42.50 for all three days?

Instead of 37.50 for 1 & 42.50 for 2 ?

Or have I misunderstood?

KatyMac Mon 28-Jul-08 21:54:58

Thanks BALD - I will get there - other people jobs depend upon me

I may go & get a Tescos job

fishie Mon 28-Jul-08 22:14:33

it currently averages 167.50 a week (av 4.5days) with 2.5 days unfed, will be going to 179 and i am proposing she does all fed.

KatyMac Mon 28-Jul-08 22:20:10

You can ask but don't be surprised if she says no

littlestarschildminding Tue 29-Jul-08 07:55:45

Fishie, if you are in London you are getting a great deal. I charge £60 per day inc meals and thats normal around here.


Sorry for hijack Katy blush

Fadge Tue 29-Jul-08 16:17:37

Very quiet on the enquiry front but that could jsut be one of those phases anyway?

dmo Tue 29-Jul-08 16:54:58

front page news today they are closing schools near me as there are over 2000 places not being used shock it must be a low birth rate the last yr or so

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