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Temporary Nanny

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lemonstartree Mon 07-Apr-08 20:58:01

After a lot of thought, I think we will need a temporary Nanny for the summer holidays - probably 4 -5 weeks. We have 3 boys , 9, 6 and 3. Has anyone done this ?

where did you advertise ? how soon in advance ? for a temp job should we advertise a gross wage , and do we need to pay the tax ourselves or can we assume that the nanny is self employed ad will pay her/his own ( quite like the idea of a male nanny for the boys) - to be clear , we are happy to pay the tax ( and expect to) but not sure how its arranged for a temp.....

we live in kingston, surrey.....

iheartdusty Mon 07-Apr-08 21:09:25

you could ring one of the nanny tax companies and have a chat, they might have suggestions about how to handle it. I use nannypaye, have always found them very helpful.

imananny Mon 07-Apr-08 21:23:01

You as employers should pay the tax as that is the legal way of doing it

nannies are not allowed to be se UNLESS they are a mn

You can certainly advertise, maybe a college student would like to earn some extra money - so possible that they might not earn enough to need to pay tax

Though agencies do charge a fee, they are very good at finding temp child care, some nannies work on a temp basis, others want extra days during holidays, so might be possible to have 2 nannyies who work 2 and 3 days in a perm job who want extra work for 2 and 3 days iyswim

also long term perm temp nannies like to be booked up, so would be happy to commit to work that might not start for 2/3mths

yogimum Mon 07-Apr-08 21:28:44

I do temping and I am self-employed, I think it depends on how long the contract is.

jura Mon 07-Apr-08 21:58:02

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imananny Mon 07-Apr-08 22:01:34

tech nannies shouldnt be se, and have trouble explaining to tax office that they want to be se, and the tax office always say nannies shouldnt be se (if that makes sense)

many temp nannies work through agencies and they pay their tax and ni

nannynick Mon 07-Apr-08 22:02:04

I think you would need to see proof that they were self-employed for that particular job. HMRC can evaluate each job on it's own merits, so while someone can be self-employed for one job, may be an employee for another.
Think it is best to assume that someone will be an employee, unless they have something to prove they aren't (though not sure what proof there is... does HMRC issue anything?).

lemonstartree Mon 07-Apr-08 22:07:43

where would you advertise ? and when ??

imananny Mon 07-Apr-08 22:10:02

advertise on netmums as free

and least hopefully will be in your right area

nannynick Mon 07-Apr-08 22:14:15

Possibly advertise at local colleges/university - as could appeal to a student.

phraedd Mon 07-Apr-08 22:14:37

imananny - I am a se nanny

i take on temp/ad hoc work as well as maternity work.

I pick and choose the days and hours (and clients) that i work therefore, I am self employed.

jura Mon 07-Apr-08 22:17:38

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imananny Mon 07-Apr-08 22:30:06

i know what you are saying jura (and always happy to have a healthy debate), I have been a temp nanny and paid my own tax and NI - was a while back, but it is hard to be a se temp and many status officers

it is easier to be one as a mn as you are se anyway - does that make sense?

I would advise any nanny who is se, to get it down in writing

LadyMuck Mon 07-Apr-08 22:31:26

Agree with Jura. In fact I have a self-employed nanny working for me next week. She doesn't want to work for the same family permanently (I think she turns 60 this year), but loves taking the short term jobs with different ages of children. HMRC also assume that maternity nurses are self-employed for example.

HMRC don't give her anything to prove self-employed status. However if the nanny is willing you can ask to see their tax statements which will show thier income as being from their profession rather than being from employment.

Personally I use an agency who have a number of such nannies on their books. As Jura already indicated sometimes you will end up with an in-between-jobs nanny when you will have to operate PAYE. I think that it would be worth contacting some local agencies to see whether thay have any continually-temping nannies on their books. If not then you would be looking for an in-between nanny closer to the time (usually only a couple of weeks before because of course they are looking for the permanent job.

jura Tue 08-Apr-08 10:45:18

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imananny Tue 08-Apr-08 10:51:49

Sorry to hear that jura - hope she is ok - ps will she be getting full sick pay or ssp (just curious after the other thread about how much to put in contract)

you can try looking at ads on netmums/gumtree, there are often people wanting temp work butthey might not check their email regually,nd also you will want to cheack thei refs(hopefully)

I would call an agency, they will have people on their books who would have been vetted and ref checked - rather than use a complete stranger if you need a nanny asap

yes it is the exspensive way,but unless you can time time off work, drop children at friends etc. it is the quickest safest way to find good childcare and you might be able to find one who can work today

I often work on a temp basis and have had calls from agencies at 7/8am and if free im at their house in less than an hour

good luck smile

jura Tue 08-Apr-08 11:03:30

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imananny Tue 08-Apr-08 11:06:39

bless you jura - hope you didnt mind me asking smile

hope you find someone today

jura Tue 08-Apr-08 13:16:51

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Squiffy Tue 08-Apr-08 14:27:48

Back to original OP - look at nannyjob.co.uk and also greataupair.com (which has some nannies on it). I noticed last year that there were quite a few people advertising their services in this way (lots of teachers and matrons/housemistresses from prep schools etc wanting to earn over their holidays). I would start looking now, and would have a back-up plan of maybe using an au-pair if you can't find a nanny...

Other alternative is to advertise in your local college for girls completing their NVQ's in childcare, if you are happy to go for someoen without much experience.

imananny Tue 08-Apr-08 14:42:28

glad you found someone jura and squiffy - good idea about college students ( i did say that im my 1st post)wink doing childcare courses, be an excellent way to get experience and a reference, and as the children arent too young shouldnt be too hard - just common sense - its not like asking a 16/17yr old to look after a small baby 10+hrs a day

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