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## Term time only contract for after school care - how to give holiday?

(5 Posts)
Cleanandclothed Wed 22-May-13 16:36:12

I am hiring an after school nanny for term time only (so 40 weeks per year). So she will accrue about 4 weeks holiday over the year. Is it OK/the done thing/legal to pay the holiday out, or does she have to take it during her working year? I would be happy with her taking 1-2 weeks during term time, but more would be a problem, so if she has to take it (she doesn't mind whether she has it as holiday or pay) then do I extend the contract to say 42 weeks and specify 2weeks to be taken at a particular (school holiday) time?

eeyore12 Wed 22-May-13 17:00:24

If you have it as the contact is for 40 weeks plus how much hoilday she is owed (put the total number of weeks in the contact so say 44 weeks) and then say all hoilday must be taken in school holidays.

So you have term time cover and she gets paid for 4 weeks of the hols, that's how mine have always been worded.

Thu 23-May-13 13:32:43

Few bank holidays fall during term time - for example, this coming monday falls during half-term... least it does for the children I nanny.

I think it works like this:
The holiday is calculated on an accrual basis, that means that for every hour worked a small proportion of holiday is earned. 5.6 weeks’ holiday, divided by 46.4 weeks (being 52 weeks – 5.6 weeks) multiplied by 100 = 12.07% This gives you the multiplier figure to use to calculate holiday entitlement. Whilst on holiday you don’t accrue holiday.

Is term time 40 weeks? I suspect it varies from area to area and indeed school to school. So figure out what the weeks would actually be for this year and next if you have the dates available... check that it's the same, or use whichever is the higher figure.

So if the nanny was working say 10 hours per day, 5 days per week, 40 hours per week, then working hours per year would be: 2000
Holiday entitlement: 12.07% of 2000 = 241.4 hours. Round up to whole hours = 242 hours.
If a bank holiday fell during term time, such as May Day which often does fall during school term time, then that day could be taken as holiday, using up the usual number of hours worked on a Monday, so 10 in this case.

"Holiday pay should be paid for the time when annual leave is taken. An employer cannot include an amount for holiday pay in the hourly rate (known as ‘rolled-up holiday pay’)." Source: Gov.uk

So if they are not working half terms, they take that as holiday. That could be 3 weeks... so 15 days of holiday, or 150 hours in this example.
Holiday may be taken at the end of the term - some schools finish on a Wednesday or Thursday, rather than doing full weeks, so there may be some days at the end of each term which can be taken as holiday.

I feel you need to agree on the number of hours holiday that they get paid and that they are to take that holiday when convenient, which is days that the children do not go to school such as during half term and longer school holidays.

If you are happy for them to take the occasional day off during term time, that's fine.

In your case as it is an after-school nanny the hours per week will be less but the principle applies. 12.07% of hours worked is the holiday entitlement and you can not add that onto the hourly pay rate... they actually need to take it during times like half term.

Fri 24-May-13 01:19:59

The statutory minimum holiday accrual rate is 12.07%, so for 40 weeks worked that is 4.83 weeks paid holiday. In this situation it is normal for the holiday to be taken outside the working weeks, but if you want to allow some to be taken in term time that is fine. Just remember to adjust the amount of paid holiday given in the summer e.g. if she only works 38 weeks due to taking 2 as (paid) holiday, you only need to pay for 4.59 weeks in total, so pay for 2.59 in the summer.

You will want to time the holiday year to coincide with the summer holidays.

Cleanandclothed Fri 24-May-13 14:14:07