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Lazy childminder

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brightpinkleggings Fri 08-Feb-13 12:59:30

There is a childminder in our village who is possibly the laziest person i know. She comes to toddlers/clubs, unloads the kids, sits on her bum and doesn't move all the time she is there. Apart from the odd 'don't do that Johnny', she ignores the kids, who end up seeking attention from others. It makes me so cross that she is classed as 'good' by ofsted. If she is this lazy at toddlers, what is she like at home?

minderjinx Fri 03-May-13 16:11:48

I also wouldn't be happy to go back to collect a child at four, so I certainly wouldn't be offering a reduced rate for the extra hassle.

fivesacrowd Fri 03-May-13 16:41:08

Why is this posted under a thread about a lazy childminder when you have a cm who is prepared to do 2 school runs to fit in with your dc's needs? Have you asked the cm what the afterschool routine is? I have days where we come home, have snack, do homework, play and boardgame and do a craft or baking activity. Today however, they got soaked on way home, devoured snack and now they're watching a movie while building towers out of wooden blocks and knocking them over. Their parents just want them to be happy, safe & secure. A good childminder is led by the needs of the children.
As for the lazy cm thread, I was at play training this week and we were advised to sit back and let children play, not interfere unless invited to by the child. Obviously if they need me I'm there, but you have to let them learn to play and interact and manage risk by themselves.

Murjika Fri 03-May-13 19:41:34

I have asked a question I am not judging anyone, just wanted an opinion.
When we started I said my son was attending clubs and CM was very happy with this. I never had childminder before and had no idea how it worked. It costs me more to pay for after school club so it's not about the money. I would have been happier if she explained like some of you did that it's a hassle and I would agree. I still agreed, but I don't believe in getting paid for work one does not do.
I will be cancelling clubs from next term anyway.

Fivesacrowd, the was a lot of discussn about what childminders do during the day and that's why I posted my question here.

MaryPoppinsBag Fri 03-May-13 21:28:23

She may not do the 'work' but she cannot fill that hour with another child. So that is why she charges it.
Travelling to pick up your DC will eat into that time that she apparently doesn't work.

CM is a business and most business people have a set idea of what they want to earn and charge accordingly.

You don't have to accept it, you might be able to move CM but I expect you'd be charged similar by another. Obviously you realise this and are cancelling classes.

Regarding what your DC does whilst he is there depends on how long he is there for after his club as to what she could fit in. I had grand ideas of baking and craft projects and the reality is there is little time between getting home and parents arriving. Baking takes too long and is too chaotic with 4-6 children. And craft projects are very messy and they no sooner start as I have to clear the table for tea!

At that time of day I have cleared up after my littlies in the day and don't want the mess TBH. My business my rules! The beauty of being self employed.

Kids love to just play any way!

I spent ages setting up a small world with my EYFS children the other day. They helped me set it up with natural materials from the garden and chose the animals for it. Played for 5 minutes with it and buggered off back to the tree swing - that the 3 year old had just mastered the previous day. Which I thought was brilliant because he'd learnt something new (it's a rope swing in my cherry tree and little ones do struggle with it). And my DS(4) learnt how to share it. They were 'just ' playing but they both achieved something!

Ask her if she intends to provide craft activities, now your DC will attend the after school clubs.


Murjika Sat 04-May-13 07:35:18

Thank you very much for a very helpful post marypoppynsbag, I am not asking for baking and messy plays etc things which take a long time. I asked her to help him to read his school book, which takes about 5 minutes. She does not have any other kids there apart from her own 1-2 and her other half always seems to be at home. So I thought that was feasible. And she did not mind it at all. We are at good terms and I am a sensible parent understanding that everyone has to earn money and she would not be able to fill in that hour with other kid.
The reason why asked, was that I came across other childminders who for the same fee provide dinner and help kids with homework.
I want to increase hours with my CM but she can't do one of the days I asked so if I change to different childcare that would be the only reason.

anewyear Sat 04-May-13 08:36:44

I only have After Schoolers (6,7,8 & 11) as I work in Pre School during the day.
When we come in, the boys disappear in to the lounge and the T.V goes, on the girls tend to go to the dining room, where I have my craft cuboard and find something they would like to do in there.
All the kids tend to wander back and forth from both rooms joining in if they wish.
I have plenty of board games, books etc
They all like Bingo and Twister, both very popular as is Scrable and Nab-It, they all join in when one of them decided to get these games out.
I brought a 'school set' for them to play 'schools' from Amazon which is very Popular too hmm

We have a snack around 4pm,
We also 'Bake' every few weeks.
I only do Tea on a Tuesday as 3 of them have activities to go to straight after they're picked up (5.15)

Homework and school reading books. I personally think thats the parents job, however if a child asks me to read a book with them, then yes of course I will, and the same with homework, But that very rarley gets taken out of their book bag tho grin

Just a small insight as to what happens in my setting after school.

Lovingcarenanny Sat 04-May-13 10:18:15

With many years of childminding behind me I have to say I was a more pro-active childminder, I preferred to sit on the carpet at the children's level so the babies and toddlers could come to me for cuddles or to show me a toy/tell me something etc...they would then crawl/toddle off happily on their own. I would go and help if they needed it without 'helicoptering' or following them around. I could still socialise and talk to other cm's but felt I was more accessible to my little ones without being on top of them iyswim.

Many cm's would sit around the edge of the room drinking hot drinks, chatting without even looking at their mindees, looking at their phones lol and shouting across the room but hey ho we're all different and I did truly feel sorry for some of the little ones.

I totally agree that children need to learn to play independently without constant adult attention but it's a sad fact that there are some cm's who are not suited to the job and others who are brilliant :-)

RosieGirl Sat 04-May-13 13:31:08

CM's just can't win, can they? On some threads there is CM bashing about how children are not stimulated, looked after properly, the constant bitching about "if I pay some to care for my child, I expect them to be paying 100% attention to my child, how dare they have a cup if tea, talk to other adults, while I am paying her/him". Then on the other hand, complaints about our charging policies, how expensive we are, how it would be better to have "basic" childcare, so there could be somewhere or leave children in a warm, loving, homely environment, without all these silly rules....

OP, if it worries you enough to put it on a public forum, why not address it yourself. An "excuse me x could you help me do something with these children as I could do with another pair of hands" or as others have said speak to you local DO.

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