The reason I ask is that prior to having our nanny we used a local babysitter (for occasional evening babysitting) and is cheaper than our nanny's hourly rate. It would feel a bit odd having the babysitter turning up before our nanny went home but at the same time if I use our nanny (who is willing to do babysitting) at her day rate our evenings out will be much more expensive. Has anyone got any experience?
We do but it does make nights out expensive. Nanny is fully aware that I do babysit swaps with another mum to cover most of our evenings out. It's actually worth more to her as we give her her gross wage as cash rather than going via the payroll for the maybe 4 times a year we use her.
I don't see that she can object to you using your usual babysitter unless you have it in her contract that you will only use nanny! If she wants to know why then be upfront. She may agree to babysit at lower rate!
I (nanny) usually get for my normal day rate. I suppose because I could be doing other things in evening I think of it as antisocial hours and all that. They don't have to use me and have back ups for when I can't do it. Only reason I'd do it for less is if it was very local and I needed the extra money/had absolutely thing else to do.
I pay less, currently £10/hour for day and £8/hour after normal bedtime. I do sometimes use sitters agency in the evening and the nanny waits for them, but its usually when she's got something on and doesn't want to babysit.
We have a normal overtime rate. It does not go up in late hours, or depend on the duties at hand. So if kids are sleeping she gets the same as if she was doing the school run with a couple of friends in tow.
I could hire a b-sitter agency (i.e. sitters) but I think as a courtesy it is only right to offer the job to the nanny first. However, I make it very clear she is free to turn it down, and then I call sitters.
She didn't ask for more, we do it partly because she has to stay after an already long day, partly because its only a few pounds difference at the end of the week so we just round up her wages -- doesn't happen that often though!
We have a formal 'babysitting' hourly rate (in the contract) for our nanny, which is different from (lower than) day rate. But these things are always context:
- ds & dd are older (11 & 10) so there is none whatever of settling/dealing with crying etc. - the job involves making sure their lights are off at a set time & then being free to get on with own emails, relaxing, etc.
- and because they're older we can get agency babysitters on same-day notice (whose charge is lower than nanny's babysitting rate) so although we give nanny first option of babysitting nights there is never ever any compulsion
- and nanny is after-school only, so doing babysitting does not mean she ends up with a 14 hour day or anything like that.
So in those exact circumstances a lower rate seems fair (and nanny didn't object to it at all when we were doing the contract). But I can imagine circumstances (with much younger children etc.) where the night work is tougher than the day work.