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Please tell me about freebirthing

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Beesandbutterflies Wed 16-Oct-13 21:07:12

Okay, so after my first birth I now am unfortunately dealing with PTSD and a massive phobia of midwives. So considering freebirth.

Could anyone be brave enough to share their experiences with me? And legalities, how did it work afterwards?

I have no interest in being controversial so please no one get upset with me

stargirl1701 Wed 16-Oct-13 21:09:21

A doula?

PacificDogwood Wed 16-Oct-13 21:10:00

I didn't want to read and run, but have no practical advice to offer, sorry.

Sorry to hear that you had a horrible experience the first time round and hope it'll all be much more straightforward the next time.

Have you had any treatment for your PTSD or debriefing after your last delivery?

Beesandbutterflies Wed 16-Oct-13 21:21:58

I had a doula for my first birth, but unfortunately she was unable to morph the midwife into someone who gave a crap

Beesandbutterflies Wed 16-Oct-13 21:22:49

I've had an apology from the hospital for the actions of the mw. I can't face counselling right now :-(

Gileswithachainsaw Wed 16-Oct-13 21:24:10

Could you afford to hire an independent midwife? That way you can see references etc

Beamur Wed 16-Oct-13 21:24:16

Was your previous birth in hospital?

PacificDogwood Wed 16-Oct-13 21:24:46

Are you currently expecting? Or do you have 'more' time to look at all your options?

Would you consider meeting with an independent MW or with several to find a person you can trust to be your advocate and truly be by your side from start to finish.

So sorry that you are having to deal with this. V unfair.

stargirl1701 Wed 16-Oct-13 21:25:35

Give birth in a private hospital?

Can you go elsewhere in the EU to give birth and still be entitled to public healthcare?

A different hospital?

A midwife unit?

Beesandbutterflies Wed 16-Oct-13 21:34:01

I've been told by smw that an independent mw wasn't an option because thy were illegal hmm

Beesandbutterflies Wed 16-Oct-13 21:34:49

But I really want to talk to people about freebirthing

Gileswithachainsaw Wed 16-Oct-13 21:36:52

I think intentional free birthing is also illegal.

QueFonda Wed 16-Oct-13 21:38:33

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

PotteringAlong Wed 16-Oct-13 21:39:40

NBC webpage

previous mumsnet thread

Gileswithachainsaw Wed 16-Oct-13 21:40:10

My bad, I think it's legal provided that you don't have anyone in attendance who is acting as a medical accessory

DaftAda Wed 16-Oct-13 21:40:25

Didn't want to read and run. I seriously considered a freebirth after a traumatic experience with dc1. When I really really thought about what my ideal birth would be though, I realised I didn't actually want to be all alone.

Impersonating a mw is illegal, so if your doula were to assist you, she could be prosecuted (although I think it would be pretty unlikely).. Otoh, your dh/dp would probably be ok. Lots of babies are born at home before any professionals arrive and no one bats an eyelid.

I found an IM I could trust. I now have 4 dc's and some happy birth memories (and now I'm crying). I hope everything works out for you.

QueFonda Wed 16-Oct-13 21:42:28

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Branleuse Wed 16-Oct-13 21:44:49

if youre going to do it, then id suggest still having someone competent and trustworthy with you. Your partner or mother/sister? Do as much research as possible and make sure youll phone an ambulance if necessary.

Do you live near a hospital?

DaftAda Wed 16-Oct-13 21:44:55

The law is in flux wrt IMs. Problems arose with their inability to get insurance. This is under review, I believe. Crucially, employing an IM is still legal.

DanglingChillis Wed 16-Oct-13 21:47:27

I don't know if free birthing is illegal or not but it could be very dangerous, for you and your baby. Are you pregnant now? Have you thought about a CS? Or would that be worse for you? Or a homebirth (with a sympathetic MW)? I do think you need to think about councilling to cope with the experience you had before, I have a friend who is still suffering PTSD after a badly managed birth and I know it can be very hard to build up the strength to face councilling but it will help.

Beesandbutterflies Wed 16-Oct-13 21:48:48

Right so maybe a better option is either 1. An indep mw or 2. A home birth with the mws in a different room.

I'm actually shaking at the thought of a mw being that close to me. Would it be possible to 'freebirth' in 1 room of my house and have a lock on the door and have the mw in another room so they are close by but can not interfere with me?

OoozingCervix Wed 16-Oct-13 21:49:35

not illegal yet.

have a good look before deciding.

Beesandbutterflies Wed 16-Oct-13 21:50:13

I have major trust issues nowhmm

Beesandbutterflies Wed 16-Oct-13 21:52:33

I'm not pg, my dh wants to start trying for no2 and I'm stalling.

I now realise that I can not let this experience stop me from having all the wonderful and amazing experiences another child will bring.

stargirl1701 Wed 16-Oct-13 21:52:42

There was a birth on C4 where the midwife was downstairs and the mum was upstairs with her DH.

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