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@*@*@ overview of NSF, CNST and Maternity matters needed @*@*@*

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VoodooLULUmama Mon 01-Oct-07 12:47:14

anyone out there give me a precis of the above? am supposed to be chairing MLSC tomorrow and am floundering in a mass of papers and downloads...

help me !


NoNameToday Mon 01-Oct-07 13:38:52

Looks like you're on your own there lulumamawink

How many words are you looking at?

VoodooLULUmama Mon 01-Oct-07 13:51:40

not too much ! enough so i don;t look like a total pillock grin have told them i will chair committee if everyone understands i have no medical knowledge, and they all have to be nice to me grin

i intend to hand over fairly rapidly to consultant midwife

<<how do i get myself into this situations??>>

NoNameToday Mon 01-Oct-07 13:59:35

Oh dear lulumama, it's because you are so nice and want to help others.

I will try and 'do' something to help, you know I'm good at unemotional factual posts!grin

If I do it and you don't need it, no problems.

VoodooLULUmama Mon 01-Oct-07 14:05:53

oh bless you ! you are very kind

facts would be good, right about now !

NoNameToday Mon 01-Oct-07 14:07:36

Will do my best and email you when completed.

StripeyKnickersSpottySocks Mon 01-Oct-07 14:10:06

Maternity Matters - Government paper that says by 2008 women will have choice of the type of care they receive, have continuity of care and improved access to services.

CNST - Is where all health trusts pay money into a pot. The amount they pay depends on the size of the trust and the amount of high risk pregnanies, etc they care for each year. Then when a trust is sued for a large amount the compensation comes out of the CNST pot.

NSF - for young people, children and maternity services. Published in 2004. Introduced a 10 year programme aimed at improving services/ setting standards. Said that services should be fitted around what the customers/women need. It said that some groups such as asylum seekers or economicaaly disadvantaged needed focusing on as they were less likely to access services.

There's more to it than that I'm sure, but thats all I can remember!

VoodooLULUmama Mon 01-Oct-07 14:13:20

thank you !

i presume the government are therefore injected shedloads of cash into maternity services ,to make sure this happens hmm

NoNameToday Mon 01-Oct-07 14:19:39

Very concise and succinct StripeyKnickersSpottySocks, think that beats me for speed and accuracy.

I was just gearing up to it but will now wind downsmile

Good luck lulumama

VoodooLULUmama Mon 01-Oct-07 14:24:35

thanks, will be able to pad it out a bit for tomorrow, now i have the gist of it

thanks both x

StripeyKnickersSpottySocks Mon 01-Oct-07 16:20:17

One of the papers - I think Maternity Matters talks about one-to-one midwifery care by 2008/2009. We need a minimum of another 10,000 midwives for that to happen. Being the cynical person that I am its a load of government spin that's never going to happen.

NoNameToday Mon 01-Oct-07 17:06:11

I'd call that realistic, not cynical

jamila169 Mon 01-Oct-07 22:25:21

Just like changing childbirth and we know how much influence that had (no smiley to communicate the noise pffffffft!)
Lisa X

NoNameToday Mon 01-Oct-07 23:57:42

Glad I'm not the only one with that thought about the changing childbirth document!

Or do I mean the influence of the same?

jamila169 Tue 02-Oct-07 00:29:00

It annoys the crap out of me how they imply that there aren't ehough midwives! - noooooooo!!!!!!! there aren't enough bloody jobs you imbeciles - and yet I'm still carrying on with plans to retrain as a midwife when my latest passenger is nusery age (or before if i find myself talking to the furniture)
Lisa X

StripeyKnickersSpottySocks Tue 02-Oct-07 09:12:24

Meant to say good luck Lulamamma, I'm sure you'll wow 'em.

VoodooLULUmama Tue 02-Oct-07 09:15:05

thanks very much!

i am also planning on training as a MW when my DCs are older... if i get a place, and if there are any jobs

friend is starting next year at the local university . so will see how she fares

jamilla... you seem very knowledgeable and interesting!

NoNameToday Tue 02-Oct-07 11:28:45

Hope all goes well for you today , just remember that if you're very good, you will be asked to do it again

VoodooLULUmama Tue 02-Oct-07 15:20:26


thanks so much for the support

it went well, i was nervous, but the overviews did help, and i feel a lot more confident for the next meeting, and i also felt able to contribute and ask questions , so it was good.

thanks again

next one not till end of January, by which point i have to have read Maternity Matters ( again) and focus on salient and relevant aspects that got thrown up today

<<eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeekkk !>>

StripeyKnickersSpottySocks Tue 02-Oct-07 15:25:19

Am also fed up with the government spin saying there is a shortage of midwives. Er, no - there is a shortage of jobs. I know dozens of unemployed midwives and have no doubt that I will be stacking shelves at Tescos when I qualify in a few months.

NoNameToday Tue 02-Oct-07 16:33:15

Well done lulumama, knew you could do it.

Carry on fighting the cause for good care for all.

jamila169 Tue 02-Oct-07 22:26:46

Well done VLM - the more mothers get involved with the liason groups the better, it's about time we got listened to!
Lisa x

Lulumama Tue 02-Oct-07 22:28:01


good to have support here !

<<have gone back to my pre halloween name, will save it for nearer the day !>>

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