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This article has me fuming....thoughts?

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PrincessZ Mon 22-Aug-11 22:06:21

I just read this article and I am so shocked at how they can categorically ban cesarean sections!

I'm pregnant and I was going to ask for a cesarean. Reading this article has made me lose all hope.

NonnoMum Mon 22-Aug-11 22:07:32

It's in the Daily Mail.

Don't worry about it.

boombangabang Mon 22-Aug-11 22:25:44

I didn't realise you could just ask for a c-section actually, I thought you had to have a vaginal birth if there was no medical reason why not to. Why would you ask for a c-section if you could do it naturally? I mean unless there is a good reason like a serious phobia, or if you had had a c-section done previously. I must be quite thick not to realise you could do this.

tethersend Mon 22-Aug-11 22:32:38

Welcome to MN, PrincessZ smile

You will find that the DM use MN for material on an almost daily basis, so you will appreciate the healthy dose of cynicism some of us carry.

NonnoMum Mon 22-Aug-11 22:34:51

Regardless of DM or not, the policy doesn't seem that different from most NHS policies now... why go through major surgery unnecessarily?

spudulika Mon 22-Aug-11 22:38:44

PrincessZ - the article is poop. There has never been a 'c-section on demand' thing going on in the NHS. There is no policy change.

cardamomginger Mon 22-Aug-11 22:57:33

Well, there is a grain of truth in this article, although, as usual, the DM has twisted it almost out of all recognition. I have bad birth injuries and one of the gynaes who is trying to piece me back together also does obstetrics on the NHS. The pressures to reduce the number of C-sections, both to just get the numbers down and to save on dosh, means that she and her team sometimes have to fight tooth and nail to get sections for women even where they deem them to be medically necessary. Examples she gave me were where women have existing continence problems. Yes, these women can give birth vaginally, but it's not at all in their best interests to do so, if increased incontinence is something they wish to avoid.

PrincessZ Mon 22-Aug-11 23:10:44

I agree about not going through surgery unnecessarily, but surely some women prefer the risks of a cesarean? It isn't as if a normal birth is risk free.
They don't advertise those risks. I have a feeling that if a cesarean was cheaper, it would have been shoved under everyones nose.LOL

On a serious note, I thought that the changes in the NICE guidelines were supportive of cesarean on demand.
I find it offensive that doctors(95% of whom must be men) think they can 'ban' women from doing things. By saying "Its too risky to allow" you are implying that women are too daft to make an informed choice and so they must be 'allowed' or 'disallowed' from doing certain things. Pfft.

Anyway, given the present scenario how good are my chances of getting a cesarean on the NHS?

PrincessZ Mon 22-Aug-11 23:12:23

For those who asked, people have had cesareans on demand on the NHS in the past. In any case, they were always allowed by private doctors.

nickschick Mon 22-Aug-11 23:18:28


PrincessZ Mon 22-Aug-11 23:19:34

It is cesarean.

nickschick Mon 22-Aug-11 23:20:11

no its not.

PrincessZ Mon 22-Aug-11 23:22:22

Apparently it is both.
Check this-

tethersend Mon 22-Aug-11 23:23:12

It's caesarean, no?

tethersend Mon 22-Aug-11 23:23:39

cesarean is the US spelling

nickschick Mon 22-Aug-11 23:23:46

Ive had 3 grin.

nickschick Mon 22-Aug-11 23:24:14

Tethers it is it is ....<stamps feet> it is.

tethersend Mon 22-Aug-11 23:25:43

You're more right than Princess- UK spelling is both caesarean and caesarian I think. But what do I know, I've only had one grin

Maybe we should stick with CS?

nickschick Mon 22-Aug-11 23:31:15

grin youre such a novice ......dh reckons they should have just fitted a zip after ds1.

PrincessZ Mon 22-Aug-11 23:37:59

CS it is.
I want a CS:D How do I get a CS?

wonkylegs Mon 22-Aug-11 23:39:09

This article was also on the front page of the Sunday Times and various other news services .... It's a cost cutting measure whilst they are still pushing the notion that we all have choice... I wish they would stop spouting the choice rubbish when it's clear that this isn't the case because choice costs money that pcts don't have.

PrincessZ Mon 22-Aug-11 23:42:12

Cheapos. So should i even bother asking them for one?

wonderstuff Mon 22-Aug-11 23:48:00

Why do you want a CS - since a VB is less risky and cheaper I'd say chances of the NHS doing one with no good medical reason are slim.

Caring for a newborn is hard work, I would hate to be recovering from surgery at the same time.

PrincessZ Tue 23-Aug-11 00:57:48

I know its tough, but I prefer a cesarean. I have help so taking care of the baby is not a problem. Besides, I could end up with an emergency cesarean, what will I do then?
I've read posts by women who had cesareans by choice on the NHS. Maybe they'll post.

nickschick Tue 23-Aug-11 01:04:43

You prefer a caesarian ????

Bjesus angry.

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