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bullying....i take it schools have no authority on this whatsoever...is it time to NAME AND SHAME????

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cutekids Fri 16-Oct-09 12:46:36

I'm sorry if this offends anyone but I am sick and tired of hearing that the school can't get involved but you can involve the police....?????
why,why,why is there no authority or control in schools anymore?
why can't a child who persistently does this be named and shamed either in class or in assembly???I imagine there are parents on here who think i'm absolutely wrong but what harm can a little humiliation do compared to the damage that could be done to a child if it isn't stopped???????

cutekids Fri 16-Oct-09 12:55:19

take it noone feels the same as me then lol

ParisFrog Fri 16-Oct-09 13:06:37

I agree something needs to be done (I was bullied for YEARS) but naming and shaming is a bit too far.

I was bullied for years by an awful girl. Teachers never seemed to do much. Later found out she was regularly raped at home. You really don't know what is going on at home.

AMumInScotland Fri 16-Oct-09 13:49:26

I suspect most bullies, if named in a school assembly would either -

1. Be very cocky and "proud" of their position
2. Be confirmed in their own low self-esteem
3. Both of the above

I don't think it would improve the situation for their victims.

sarah293 Fri 16-Oct-09 14:00:31

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cutekids Fri 16-Oct-09 16:33:53

good point Riven.
I sat at an open evening for next year's intake,listening to the headmaster telling prospective pupil's parents that there wasn't a problem with bullying,knowing full well there was!
I probably should've put my hand up then and said that there absolutely was a problem but...I'm not that brave lol

cutekids Fri 16-Oct-09 16:35:11

i've been told that the school can only "talk" to the offenders as a class group...without naming anyone in particular.But,if I felt the need, I could always involve the police ???

kickassangel Fri 16-Oct-09 16:45:07

schools can't go about naming & shaming individuals, for a lot of reasons.

BUT, they can deal one-to-one with the children & should.

having said that, there is a LOT of cases where 'bullying' can be a case of mistaken identity, flase rumours & lies, chinese whipsers, over enthusiastic jokey teasing, feuds between various families ....
the list of
mistakes' go on & of course, kids get v upset about these perceived wrongs.

however, where there is persistent verbal or physical abuse, there are lots of strategies that schools can use. the police could be involved where the bullying extends beyond the school, or when the school is being ineffective, or in REALLY serious case (in which case the school may choose to involve them)

incidentally, i've never heard a head say publically 'we have no problem' -it's just asking to be proved wrong!

TheDevilEatsBabies Fri 16-Oct-09 16:50:09

By cutekids Fri 16-Oct-09 16:33:53 Add a message | Report post | Contact poster

good point Riven.
I sat at an open evening for next year's intake,listening to the headmaster telling prospective pupil's parents that there wasn't a problem with bullying,knowing full well there was!

sounds about right: my old school's take on bullying was that if the head said there was no bullying at the school then there wasn't hmm never mind that actual bullying was taking place constantly.

eyetunes Fri 16-Oct-09 16:52:08

def think the schools should be named and shamed.

wannaBe Fri 16-Oct-09 17:06:08

tbh I think the answer lies higher up than just at the school's door.

Obviously some schools do have more of a problem than others, but even if schools do attempt to deal with bullying they are often powerless.

If they exclude a pupil the pupil has the right of appeal and will often be allowed back into the school by the LEA.

Schools actually now have very little power to enforce serious discipline, especially if they do not have the parents on side which is generally the case where bullying is concerned.

Perhaps they should bring back borstels (sp?) and serious bullies (repeat offenders) should have the threat of being sent to one.

sarah293 Sat 17-Oct-09 08:12:56

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