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We have had Hilary Jones, now hear what Kevin Harrington, obstetrician at The Portland has to say about breastmilk......

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BCLass Mon 27-Apr-09 11:53:38

'The breastfeeding police frown on the use of cabergoline,' he told the Sunday Times.

'But for some women their breasts are an important part of their sexuality and they don't want to use them to provide milk.

'There is not enough difference between breast milk and infant formula to make a fuss about it.'

Admitedly from The Daily Mail

As a scientist, surely he cannot, logically, come to that conclusion??

Hey Ho, at least it was 'breasfeeding police' and not 'breastfeeding Nazi's' wink

StealthPolarBear Mon 27-Apr-09 12:00:21

This is linked to on another thread, in the Times I think.
The Times one was worse - apparently it's believed that breastmilk passes on good stuff to your baby!
The guy is an idiot

hunkermunker Mon 27-Apr-09 12:01:38

There's not enough difference between this man's brain and Lancashire hotpot to make a fuss about it.

BCLass Mon 27-Apr-09 12:05:07

Ah, SPB, missed that. (how? How? I spend most of my waking hours on here!)

BCLass Mon 27-Apr-09 12:05:26

lol @ Lancashire hotpot

LackaDAISYcal Mon 27-Apr-09 12:06:32

I noticed the article in the Times said something about the DoH recommending BFing for 6months. It didn't say anything about continuing for longer than that is beneficial, which at least the Mail has recognised.

not enough difference though? what a buffoon.

LackaDAISYcal Mon 27-Apr-09 12:07:19

grin hunker, but surely that is an insult to all good Lancashire Hotpots out there!!

StealthPolarBear Mon 27-Apr-09 12:07:28

I don't think that was him, I think it was the Times

rasputin Mon 27-Apr-09 12:08:10

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StealthPolarBear Mon 27-Apr-09 12:08:43

"Others are concerned that suppressing lactation will be detrimental to the health of babies, who are believed to receive protective antibodies and a range of other nutrients from their mother’s milk. "

jellybeans Mon 27-Apr-09 12:12:50

He obvs thinks womens breasts are there to be oggled at and 'serve' men. Abit sad really that some men have 'taken' what belongs to babies away by sexualising the breast.

RicePuddingWithJam Mon 27-Apr-09 12:15:33

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BCLass Mon 27-Apr-09 12:21:29

Have now read the Timesarticle, which has this cracker....

'The drug’s increasing use is part of a backlash against the huge pressure to breastfeed placed on new mothers in Britain, although many ........ do not produce enough milk, according to some doctors'

Aargh angry

gremlindolphin Mon 27-Apr-09 12:22:08

I read the Times article and cried.

Although this isn't really about the breast/bottle argument I don't see how anyone can argue against "breast being best" but I fully appreciate that there are mums, babies and situations for whom it is not possible/suitable and they should be supported in their choices. I bf dd1 for 1 mth as I had to go into hospital for a major operation.

However, not breast feeding because your breasts belong to your husband and you don't want them to sag defies belief.

I think that there must be some very strange men out there if this is how they encourage their partners to feel.

Basically what is sexuality if not to attract someone to be with you, to stay with you and if you are lucky enough for it to happen, to reproduce and hand on your genes?

StealthPolarBear Mon 27-Apr-09 12:25:48

I missed that BClass!

coochicoo Mon 27-Apr-09 12:31:12

It's the men I feel sorry for. They get together with these sex goddesses, then have to put up with them getting fat whilst their child grows inside them and then, then, the breasts that had so attracted them once suddenly become veiny, engorged, and have, of all things, a baby attached to them. After all that they're left with a partner who's constantly tired, not overly interested in spontaneous sex sessions and whose breasts are lower than they once were.

Poor men. hmm

LtEveDallas Mon 27-Apr-09 12:34:12

Oh my bloody God

"My breasts are for my husband,” said one 35-year-old French mother of twins who lives in Britain. “He wouldn’t like me feeding the babies and I don’t want to end up with a chest like a cow.” "

Gobsmacked shock

Flibbertyjibbet Mon 27-Apr-09 12:37:14

Sorry whats cabergoline?

<<sobs into lancashire hotpot in the slow cooker and debates whether to offer beans on toast instead tonight>>

coochicoo Mon 27-Apr-09 12:40:24

I felt like that when I read that quote too, LtEveDallas. Similarly when I read an interview with Gordon fucking Ramsay in which he said he hadn't wanted to see his wife give birth to their children because he thought it would ruin their sex life. Or something equally pathetic.

Megglevache Mon 27-Apr-09 12:42:10

LOL @ chest like a cow.

<hits head on wall>

Megglevache Mon 27-Apr-09 12:42:54

coochicoo, it was actually ruin the whole oral sex thing EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW TOO MUCH INFORMATION!

Flibbertyjibbet Mon 27-Apr-09 12:46:13

Ok I've read the links now.

Both articles are almost identical seem to have been written by the same pr company or something.

I find the use of the word 'backlash' inappropriate, but mostly the articles are not agreeing with what the man says.

coochicoo Mon 27-Apr-09 12:49:27


I don't understand why certain camps seem intent on rubbishing the benefits of breastfeeding. It is the healthiest option, and it's the best option in economic terms. Why the need to belittle it?

FaintlyMacabre Mon 27-Apr-09 12:55:06

Strangely, the Mail article is much more balanced than the Times one.

Poledra Mon 27-Apr-09 12:57:37

He's not a scientist, he's a medic and, believe me, they are given to stating unsubstantiated 'facts'. One of the problems in my line of work is that all medics think they are scientists when, in fact, a lot of them have not had any experience in critically evaluating evidence correctly.

I also find it very sad that people have this issue about the loss of sexuality of their breasts. I have bfed 3 babies (still bfing DD3, 9mo) and DH has no problem with my breasts being the source of his babies' food but also still being part of my femininity, IYSWIM (don't like that word but cannot think of a better one grin).

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