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Help on baby food/formula - please can you recommend?

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Kew08 · 05/08/2008 09:23

hello - please can anyone help? I'm planning to breast feed but my hubby thinks we should have baby formula on standby just in case. I don't want to use Nestle products due to their bad record in developing countries. Please can anyone recommend good reputable baby formula/food for newborns? Many thanks

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hazeyjane · 05/08/2008 09:29

I think Hipp Organic is pretty good, cheap and fairly widely available (and you can order it online, from their website if it not sold near you)

Good luck with the breastfeeding

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VictorianSqualor · 05/08/2008 09:29

TBH, There is no 'better' range of formula, it's down to what suits each individual baby.

Personally if I was determined to breastfeed I wouldn't have formula in the house, there will be times in the first few days when you are knackered and the formula calls out to you!

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CantSleepWontSleep · 05/08/2008 09:30

No baby formula is good if you're comparing it to breastmilk.

I think you should explain to your husband the reasons why you want to breastfeed, giving him literature if necessary, so that he can see that he is wrong to want formula in 'just in case'.

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LackaDAISYcal · 05/08/2008 09:32

Most of the available infant formulas in the UK are pretty much similar. I wouldn't say one was better than another, even though their advertising would have you believe otherwise! Hipp organic seems the least mucked about with in terms of novel new ingredients though.

with regard to having some on standby just in case; I'm not entirely sure that this is necessary and might just be too convenient to resort to if things aren't getting off to a brilliant start with BFing; which can be difficult and stressful and uncomfortable for lots of women in the early days, but usually comes good in the end.

Good Luck

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BouncingTurtle · 05/08/2008 09:36

I presume you are in the UK? Nestle don't sell formula milk here!
If your Dh is insistent on your having some formula on standby, please get the ready made stuff, unfortunately Hipp don't do a ready made 1st formula. It is strongly recomment you only use ready made formula for the 1st two months as it is sterile, unlike the powder stuff which will require very careful handling to ensure it is safe to give to your lo. Plus it is a lot less hassle.
But I agree with VS - it would be very tempting to give formula if it is in the house - I know, Dh gave my ds some when he was 3 days old (he also had a bit on the hospital on paed's crap advice) when I was asleep because he felt I needed the rest.
If you give a bottle at such an early stage you will risk not being able to establish breastfeeding. If you have it in, and you really feel you need to give formula use a cup rather than a bottle to avoid nipple confusion.
But I personally wouldn't have it in the first place.

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Kew08 · 05/08/2008 10:10

I do agree that having it on standby it tempting. I really do want to breastfeed and pretty determined - have to use my new HUGE boobs to use. His argument is that if the baby is crying and the baby won't feed - then it'd be awful if we didn't have anything to hand. HIPP it is then - thanks everyone

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VictorianSqualor · 05/08/2008 10:27

Maybe you could satisfy him by getting in touch with a breastfeeding counsellor beforehand so if the baby is crying and won't feed (it's probably not hunger it's crying for!) but you'd be able to 'fix' the breastfeeding rather than possibly hinder it with bottles?

One thing I will suggest is the tommee tippee closer to nature bottles if you're going to buy some.

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moondog · 05/08/2008 11:44

Kew, it would really be worth your while reading up on breastfeeding. So many women fail to understand the process and end up giving formula when they don't want or even need to.

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WilfSell · 05/08/2008 11:57

kew, I second what others have said: you need to develop some confidence about breastfeeding before and when the baby arrives, and you and your DH could really benefit from speaking to someone who knows about it. Is there a local BF group you could attend to get some experience? Or could you find a local BF counsellor? Or is there a midwife BF specialist at your local maternity unit?

I'm afraid it the first port of call when the 'baby is crying and won't feed' is formula without trying some other things first, then BF is likely to stop fairly soon afterwards because BF relies on demand to keep the flow up.

for example, it is really common to imagine that a baby is 'crying and not feeding' in the first 2-5 days after birth. But what happens is (typically) like this: baby often has a first suckle straight after birth. Then anytime from a few hours up to two days or so, baby will start to suck like mad, crying frequently in between to suck again. Sometimes this need to suck (crying) happens every hour for up to 24-48 hours. It can be exhausting! But this is necessary - because the baby is sucking to drain the breast and draining the breast is what makes more milk.

Sure, a bottle of Hipp formula or whatever in this period will make a baby full and quiet. And keep DHs from feeling anxious! But what happens in this kind of situation is then not enough milk is made to provide a full tummy, so when baby goes back to the breast, the crying and very frequent feeding starts again. Mum can't see any milk coming out and assumes 'she has none'. More formula is given; even less breastmilk is produced... And so on, until BF stops altogether.

So having a bottle of formula on standby, while it seems like a good idea, can often mean the end of BF completely. not always but in order to get a good BMilk supply, it is important for you and your supporters to understand how breastfeeding works: the more your baby sucks, the more milk you will produce. Just because you can't see it going in, doesn't mean it isn't. Experienced midwives and BF counsellors will be able to tell if your baby is getting milk from the wet nappies, colour of baby's poo and general wellbeing.

If the baby doesn't feed for some reason, there are other things you can do: express some milk and feed from a cup or syringe; hand express to try and get your milk flowing. You can get instant help from a breastfeeding helpline for much of the day and evening. You can change the position of the baby's mouth to get a better latch and thus get more milk out. You can try taking your top of and undressing the baby and snuggling up to let them latch in their own time and 'naturally' or take a bath with them. You can let them suck more and as long as they want to...

The plan to have formula is the very very last one I would choose if I wanted to BF, knowing what I know now...

As a very last resort, it you do feel you need to give it, there are 24 hour supermarkets you can send someone to...?

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moondog · 05/08/2008 11:59

Very nice post Wilf. Can you cut and paste for others in future?

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VictorianSqualor · 05/08/2008 13:10

I agree with moondog.

Everything I wanted to say without the preach factor I probably would have given it.

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