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kayzed Fri 01-Sep-06 12:34:46

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LaDiDaDi Fri 01-Sep-06 12:52:24

Could it be relux?

kayzed Fri 01-Sep-06 17:41:55

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Mum2FunkyDude Fri 01-Sep-06 17:52:47

Is she ear pulling? sometimes if they have an ear infection it hurts to suck as the movement of the jaw makes the pain worse.

kayzed Fri 01-Sep-06 17:58:22

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Mum2FunkyDude Fri 01-Sep-06 18:02:52

Oh yes, teething is hereditary, early teething runs in families. Try giving Bonjela before a feed, it lasts about 3 hours. I've tried dentinox, but it wears of so quickly. My son would go off milk for 2 weeks just before cutting and then all of a sudden try to catch up. Just keep in mind that if you are bf that you might decrease your milk supply if you are offering formula.

My son tends to pull his ear when teething too, the gp said the nerves in the mouth is connected to the ear and it is painful for them.

babyox Fri 01-Sep-06 20:02:59

Hi kayzed
This has recently started for me too DS is 9 wks today. previously latched on great and fed like a demon. His feeding habits have changed in the last week..dont know if it's because he's now going through from 10.30pm - 7am without feeding...great...but his fussiness during the day cld be due to this change. Dont know but it's driving me nuts. Wriggles and kicks whilst at the breast..latches on a minute then spits it out...gets frustrated as if there isn't enough milk there so i switch to the other after 15 mins and that also doesn't placate him... Have'nt noticed any ear tugging but will look into the teething thing...any other thoughts...? Cld my milk supply be down and causing this frustration??

MatNanPlus Fri 01-Sep-06 20:17:44

I looked after a baby that was bottle fed but at 8 weeks would be hungry and scream just after he started to feed.

I took him to a cranio consult and the nerves running up his neck were trapped due to a delayed birth delivery and as he sucked he got a huge headache, he had 4 sessions, 1 a week and after his first there was a little improvement and by the third he was smiling again and feeding well.

He slept well and she said it hadn't shown up earlier as he hadn't grown enough for the trapping to occur.

Katerina75 Fri 01-Sep-06 20:29:18

when ds was doing this at 10 weeks I changed teat size - now on Avent no 3s. It did the trick

kayzed Fri 01-Sep-06 21:47:12

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liquidclocks Fri 01-Sep-06 22:46:19

hello! great minds an'all then!

The kellymom site often gets referred to by BF mums when reflux is mentioned and it's just a generally great resource for babies - hope it had some useful info for you.

One thing with a reflux baby is that putting the cot mattress on an angle, either by using an intergral tilt mechanism which some cots have or by propping it on books, can help with sleep/naps (don't just suff things under the mattress as it will bend and sag). You also might get advice to let them sleep in a car seat but try not to if you can help it as it's no good for their posture and can make 'flat head syndrome' worse.

Also try not to get over-zealous with burping her as if it is reflux it will just encourage the acid to sit around the top of her tummy and hurt more. (Babywearing is also good for reflux see www.mamatoto.org)

hope this is of help and your DS's mood improves!

kayzed Sun 03-Sep-06 17:59:39

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kayzed Sun 03-Sep-06 18:24:20

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liquidclocks Sun 03-Sep-06 18:57:10

Kayzed I think you're doing exactly the right thing taking her to the doctor - stamp your feet until s/he helps you, if s/he says they can't you need a referral to someone who can.

With oral thrush there are generally little white lumps that develop before the mouth gets sore - have you checked for this.

Also with DS we found that he couldn't form a seal around most teats and therefore he took in too much air and became upset. We ended up using cow and gate disposable ones (though we re-used them) but it can be a trial finding the right teat with the right flow and shape. Have you tried a vari-flow?

liquidclocks Sun 03-Sep-06 19:01:24

PS - do hope your DS is ok too, can't be helping the situation with him having all this going on, poor little guy.

kayzed Sun 03-Sep-06 20:02:19

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liquidclocks Sun 03-Sep-06 20:14:55

Aw, poor you and poor DD! When were her jabs? Do you think it's possible they've just upset her status quo a bit? I remember having to give DS some calpol after a roud of injections when he was little. - really hope the visit to your docs tomorrow is useful.

kayzed Sun 03-Sep-06 22:28:06

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kayzed Mon 04-Sep-06 12:37:57

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woozy Mon 04-Sep-06 14:17:09

Hi Kayzed, can sympathise with you as DS (15 weeks) has done exactly the same - started fussing on the breast at 9 weeks (again coincided with jabs), was taking a bottle ok so decided to stop with bf and move onto bottles. Gradually got fussier over last 6 weeks. Wriggles and struggles at every feed. Seems hungry but doesn't enjoy feeding anymore. Have tried every teat/bottle/milk/position/place/temperature to no avail. Seems more unsettled during day. Only when he really calms down or is sleepy will he feed calmly. Takes alot of air in when feeding due to fussing then stomach is gurgling like crazy. Tried Colief and Gaviscon but didn't notice any difference (in fact Colief made him worse) V. distressing! Thought DD was a difficult feeder (reflux) but looking back was a doddle! Am seeing HV again who is referring us to community paediatrician - will let you know if they shed any light ...

kayzed Mon 04-Sep-06 15:00:26

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woozy Mon 04-Sep-06 16:17:59

At 9 weeks he was on the 50th centile, where he had been from birth. When we next got him weighed at 12 weeks he had dropped to the 25th although he had put on a small amount of weight. HV coming tomorrow to weigh him. Went on complete hunger strike over the bank holiday w/end so will have to see if he has put any on. Nappies ok. DD was difficult to feed with solids so am nervous about starting all that again although may be the only answer.
Sounds very similar to your situation - funny rhythmn when sucking, chewing on teat.
Thought babies were just born to feed!!
Hope your DD starts to feed again. We went to A&E when DS was taking very little but they couldn't find anything. Suggested saline drops as he sounded congested. Not sure now if it is something medical or just attitude (laziness, stubborness!). going round in circles. Very confused and rather stressed!! Sure it will sort itself out in time and we will probably never know what it was all about!

kayzed Mon 04-Sep-06 18:36:38

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woozy Mon 04-Sep-06 19:30:07

Hi Kayzed. How has your DD been today? DS refused to take more than 3oz every 4 hours today. Just fed him before bed (sleeps from 6.30pm until 7am! not hungry?) and as he was so tired he nodded off and took 6oz without flinching. That can't be a medical problem. Must just be attitude. Oh no! can't wait for the terrible twos!!!
Been reading thread about HSC (DD has many traits, DS very touchy and sensitive) - could that have something to do with not wanting to feed unless asleep?

kayzed Mon 04-Sep-06 21:25:21

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