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So baby is screaming for a feed..

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KatieBurningham Sat 15-Feb-14 17:33:19

And you have to boil the kettle, wait for kettle to boil, wait for it to cool slightly, pour in bottle, add formula, wait for it to cool.
Is this what you're supposed to do?
Can you not use the water as soon as it's boiled, then once made rapid cool in jug of freezing cold water, under tap etc? I understand you're now not supposed to make bottles up and use later, but instead have to make as you go. Just don't see how a baby can wait that long for a feed.
What does everyone else do when you need to feed baby and have to make a bottle up?

moonsquirters Sat 15-Feb-14 17:40:01

With my older children I kept bottles of cooled boiled water and added the powder as I went along. Then they changed the rules so I often used ready made cartons ( but cost a lot). Otherwise I would add 6 scoops to 3oz boiled water and shake then add 3 oz prev cooled boiled water to cool it down.

None of mine got ill from doing this.

Featherbag Sat 15-Feb-14 17:43:22

Keep cooled boiled water in the fridge, then make up bottles with half the required amount of just boiled water, top up with cold. All guidelines followed, baby fed quick with a perfect temperature bottle!

TravellingToad Sat 15-Feb-14 17:44:48

I make up in advance for the day. Store in fridge. Zap in microwave when required for 20 secs just to take the chill off and then feed. They are roughly room temperatuee then.

Also use ready made cartons.

anothernumberone Sat 15-Feb-14 17:45:05

Make up the bottles for 24 hours cool them quickly in a sink of cold water and them store in the body of the fridge.

The current formula guidelines are a mockery. They write something on the tin that is impossible to do with a screaming hungry baby and then parents are in the wrong if they don't follow them. I bf number 3 after 2 ff so thankfully I didn't need to follow those ridiculous guidelines for the other 2 as they hadn't come up with them.

TravellingToad Sat 15-Feb-14 17:45:36

Oh yes or I do what featherbag does

anothernumberone Sat 15-Feb-14 17:47:08

Featherbag they recommend you do not make up bottles with water under 70 degrees as there were a number on instances of babies dying from some pathogen in the formula which is killed off at that temp.

anothernumberone Sat 15-Feb-14 17:47:52

Oops Featherbag instead it was someone else I read sorry.

Jellymum1 Sat 15-Feb-14 17:49:00

Boil kettle and leave to cool for twenty mins. Fill a flask. Make bottle fresh with the flask water when required. Run under cold tap to cool. Obviously you have to re fill the flask after a few bottles though x

FadBook Sat 15-Feb-14 17:50:17

There are many cues that babies show when they are hungry and crying is normally the last cue.

I will find a link to a picture I saw on Facebook that is good.

You should also roughly know when a feed is due every 1-3 hours so could stick kettle on prior to those times.

ZenNudist Sat 15-Feb-14 17:53:37

My friend loves her tommee tippee or avent machine that does a bottle in 2 mins. It's more expense though, wonder if worth it rather than buying ready made.

LydiaLunches Sat 15-Feb-14 17:55:19

I did the half and half method described above.

HoratiaDrelincourt Sat 15-Feb-14 17:57:28

Part of the reason "they" don't advise using boiling water is the scalding risk - either of parent or of child.

I agree that "normal powder plus 3oz boiling, add 3oz chilled boiled once thoroughly mixed" is a sensible compromise, assuming not too sleep deprived to operate a kettle safely, and baby out of harm's way.

A friend of mine did all her night feeds with unheated cartons (which are sterile). I thought that pretty cool too, if pricey.

FadBook Sat 15-Feb-14 18:18:41

This link takes you to an Australian website on feeding cues. It refers to bf but to me it's the same feeding cues whatever method you feed baby.

Hope it helps

BlueFrenchHorn Sat 15-Feb-14 21:22:53

I know they're pricey, but you could try premade cartons at night?

MissRatty Sun 16-Feb-14 07:24:30

I had an email from Aptamil saying that boiling water should be cooled, but no cooler than 70 degrees, as above 80 degrees the nutrients are damaged.

Will post my queries and their response! We have a thermometer for milk (oh loves his coffee!) so use that...but have just ordered the perfect prep machine as we had two £40 amazon vouchers for our car insurance switch.

MissRatty Sun 16-Feb-14 07:28:17

Thanks for coming back to us regarding the best way for milk preparation.

Yes you can most certainly use a thermometer to ensure the water is above 70 degrees, and as long as it is not directly from boiling and cooled to at least 80 degrees then this should be fine.

Water that has been kept in an urn would not be freshly boiled and has been standing for possibly some hours so we wouldn't advise to use this to make up a bottle, instead freshly boiled water should be used or water from a thermos flask as Trudy has described below as this is absolutely fine when out and about or for at home. Alternatively do remember the ready to feed liquid milk we have which is ideal for out door situations when making a feed fresh may not be possible.

I hope this helps, do come back again if you would like to double check any points or have other questions. We are more than happy to help 24/7 on 0800 996 1000.

>> Thank you for contacting Aptaclub with your questions about formula preparation. I can certainly help you with these today.

Firstly, I can appreciate your comments about wasting water when boiling 1 litre of water in the kettle, especially as you are using small amounts of formula at the moment. The guidelines for this amount are so that the water does not cool below 70 degrees Centigrade when left for the 30 minutes. It is important that the water is at least this temperature to kill off any bacteria if present and you are quite right that if the water was too hot, it could scald the powder and destroy some of the nutrients, so preparing the feed exactly as the preparation instructions is the safest way. Quantities need to be prepared in the ratio of 1 fl oz (or 30ml) of water per level scoop of formula powder. It would be trickly to measure half a scoop accurately, so we do not advise half ounces.

As a parent myself, I can remember how quickly my children wanted feeding, especially at night time. If you feel that waiting 30 minutes for the kettle to cool is not always practical, the next safest alternative is to use a ready made milk, which can be decanted into a sterilised feeding bottle and any unused milk left in the packaging bottle can be stored in the fridge for up to 24 hours. If you do not have ready made formula, or feel that it would not get used up in the 24 hour period, you may want to consider the Department of Health's next safest way which is the 'flask method'. With this method you would boil your kettle, let the water cool for 10 minutes and then carefully pour it into a flask that you only ever use for your baby's water. Check the flask manufacturer's instructions to see how long the water will stay hot for. Most will be somewhere between 4 and 6 hours. You can then have your empty, sealed sterilised bottles ready, along with your powder pre-measured out into a sterile container/dispenser. When baby is ready for milk in the night, you can measure water from the flask into a feeding bottle and add your powder. Shake and then test the temperature of the feed. If too hot, hold the bottle under a cold, running tap for a minute or two and ensure it is of a correct feeding temperature before feeding your little one. The flask method is considered safer than pre-preparing feeds and storing them in the fridge.

Formula can stick to the scoops if held too close to hot water. If you choose to use a dispenser, this should be washed and sterilised every day. If they are single pots, sterilise after each use. If they are sectioned you will be able to twist the dispenser to the next lot of powder, so you may use a few of these during the night, so wash and sterilise the next morning.

I hope this information helps you and makes the preparation a little easier. You may have other questions, so please feel free to give our team of friendly advisors a call on freephon20printing or copying of this email and its associated attachments is strictly prohibited.

MissRatty Sun 16-Feb-14 07:33:56

Ooops. I just read the last sentence of what I copied!

No idea how to delete...

mumofthreeboysS Mon 17-Feb-14 08:11:10

This is useful! I didn't know the nutrients could be destroyed by boiling water. I've always put boiled water in bottles in the fridge in advance and both DC's were fine. Am bf dc3 but with the odd formula so will take note of the recommendations though bottles in the fridge is far more convenient.

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