Due End Nov/Beg Dec 2013 With DC#2

[Tinyflutterby]

Hi everyone, was going to join one of the November threads, but they're so full already and I'm only about 6 weeks pg, so feel a bit behind some of the others!

Been ttc for about 6 months and delighted to find out I was pg as ds took 2 years ttc. Ds is now 20 months. Don't have an actual due date yet as I have really long cycles and havn't had booking appointment or anything yet.

No majorly troublesome symptoms as yet, just sore boobs, more tired than usual and digestion bit delicate. Don't even feel pg some days, so it's pretty hard to believe sometimes!

Look forward to speaking to anyone else!

[yogafan]

Hi tiny, congrats. I am on the due in December board but would love to join you too.
My DD is 21 months, and my GP reckons I'm due 13th December. I was really sick (vom almost every day for 7 months) when preg with DD (can't really remember when it started though) and so far feel ok this time round, although I guess it is early days. Think I'm only 5 weeks...
Have you told anyone yet? I have to stop asking DD if she'd like a baby or she might start giving the game away by babbling about babies!

[Tinyflutterby]

Hi yoga, congrats to you too! I have told a couple of close friends as I had to tell SOMEONE! Really want to tell my mum but my sis just had a baby and mum is really busy helping her and might have a nervous breakdown if I tell her my news! Have you told anyone? That's nice both our dc#1 are about the same age too!

Hope you don't get morning sickness so bad this time round. I read somewhere that often with a second pregnancy your body is more 'used to' it and symptoms often aren't so bad. That said I've been feeling pretty nauseous off and on since the weekend and the only thing that helps is to eat! Feel hungry all the time, but can't eat very much without feeling over-full and getting indigestion. The joys! Have a good weekend!

[yogafan]

Thanks - it was a strange kind of sick, almost didn't mind, and there definitely were some comedy moments...

I told my best friend over the weekend, as we were at a hen do together, and (it was a great excuse to tell someone) she could help cover up the fact I wasn't drinking.

I'd really like to tell my sister, and a couple of other friends. It was really nice talking about it over the weekend and making it feel more real. My parents in law are coming to stay for a few days tomorrow and wonder if they'll twig. I reckon my mum would prefer to know when we've had the 12 week scan (think she'd worry on my behalf) so our plan is to keep it to ourselves until then.

I'm quite excited for my DD about the prospect of her being a big sister (although I'm sure it'll be tricky for everyone for a while) and also, me and DP are thinking we'll just have 2 kids so I'm super excited to think that soon we'll have the shape of our family iyswim. Hopefully meet the final member in December... Anyway, enough jabbering. Hope you guys have a good weekend too!

[Tinyflutterby]

Hi yoga, did you have a good weekend? How are your symptoms? I've not been as nauseous as last time, so far! Just this awful heartburn and indigestion every evening.

I have been reading some of my toddler books over the weekend to see the best way of handling the new sibling situation. Took my ds to visit his little cousin on Fri and he was not amused to say the least when I held her. He wanted me to pick him up! Which is fine but he weighs almost 2 stone! Thinking of getting him some books which help explain it for his age.

I've also been thinking about what stuff I'll need to buy, which thankfully isn't a lot, although the major thing will be the pram situation. I really don't want to get a double buggy as I'm quite small and can barely lug a single pram around! Was thinking about one of those buggy boards that fit on the existing pram as I really like my pram and would prefer to use it again. Just not sure if ds will be capable of that much walking by that point. What are you thinking about this?

[aoifen]

Hi can I join?

I feel like a real imposter on the december thread as actually due 29th November. There are so many people on there i'm struggling to follow it. I told my sister, as she is due her first in October. I was trying to keep it from my mum as my dad has been away for a few weeks and wanted to tell them together. But. I'm a big blabber mouth and told her on Saturday. I've been sick with a viral thing for a few weeks and that coupled with nausea and extreme fatigue has turned me into a major whinger. She has been helping me a lot with DS ( who was 8 months on Monday), and I really felt that I needed to explain. That opened the floodgates and now DH's family and a few close friends know. I know you're supposed to wait until 12 weeks but if something was to go wrong they would be told anyway.
#1 will only be 15 months when #2 arrives. I'm calling it a planned surprise! Like you Tiny it took 2 years TTC DS so 1 month this time is a big shock. My mum keeps saying ''you'll be so busy''. My answer is that our grandmothers had children almost yearly (I'm Irish) and got on just fine. My mums answer was ''Yes but they expected a lot less from life than you do''. I think that roughly translates as ''you're spoilt''.
Extremely early to be thinking about it but I will have to buy a new buggy. I love ours so the thought of a weighty double with no storage does Not appeal!
Well, I better do some work...

[yogafan]

Hi tiny and welcome aoifen! I had a good weekend, DP's dad and his partner came to stay, and DD was a total charmer, all seemed to have a good time. And they all went for a walk on Sunday morning while I lay on the sofa and thought about the work I should be doing...
We've got a buggy board already as DD's childminder uses it when she looks after other kids as well as DD. I think it's quite good at this age, although DD doesn't use it much with me. Still wants to walk or be carried and not quite walking far enough reliably for me to leave the buggy behind. A friend has offered me her phil and teds double which looks great. Was thinking I'd use that for days out, single and buggy board for short journeys.
Aoifen - I reeeeeally want to tell people, especially my sister, but DP and I have agreed in theory to wait until 12 week scan. We have lots of holidays and a couple of weddings before then, one of which I'm 'best woman' for....

[Tinyflutterby]

Hello and welcome Aoifen! I agree some of the threads are so long it gets too complicated trying to follow it! I can't wait to tell people either, but DH wants to wait til the scan (which I got an appointment through for today!) but I don't see the point as we would also tell close family if something went wrong anyway. I still may tell my mum if it comes up, we're pretty close so it's hard to keep things from her without her guessing. I fear her reaction similar to yours Aoifen, as I had a hard time coping first time round and she keeps saying things like 'well you'd better not have any more then...'

As for buggies, if I can borrow or pick up a cheap double I may get one, but think I'm going to go for the buggy board as well, then at least I have the option if DS is having an 'off' day and refuses to walk!

Meant to ask, don't know if it's just me but my jeans etc. all feel too tight already. I havn't actually put on any weight, but just can't stand anything tight round my waist. Is anyone the same?

Hope you feel better soon Aoifen and enjoy your holidays and wedding Yoga!

[aoifen]

Tiny - I am definitely feeling bloated this time. I had a dream pregnancy last time and didnt look pregnant for quite a while. THis one so far is entirely different. I'm just glad I didn't waste any time doing sit-ups after DS was born!

[aoifen]

Sorry second part of same post -
Everybody I've spoken to says that going from 1-2 is easier than having your first. Although we aren't experts and every baby is different - we do know the basics, and will be prepared for the sleep deprivation! For me, because I didn't have many siblings/neices or nephews close by everything had to be learnt on the job with DS.

[yogafan]

I have been wearing pregnancy leggings for the past couple if days!! Just 6 weeks preg! Just feel a but bloated around my tum and want to be super comfy (slobby...)
I'm sure having 2 kids will have its challenges, but in terms if HUGE upheaval, life change, massive rite of passage that lasts ages, we've done that already! Becoming a mum was one hell of a roller coaster for me, I had so much anxiety that I really wasn't used to. I'm hoping it is easier second time round anyway!
My pregnancy seems to be a bit lighter on symptoms so far, but maybe it is early days. I feel tired a bit, and sometimes get that sicky/I need to eat something feeling, but nowhere near as rubbish as I felt with DD.

[Tinyflutterby]

Thanks for the reassurance guys. To be honest I was such a wreck with anxiety with ds that I couldn't eat or sleep or indeed function at all and it does worry me that I may find it difficult coping with two, especially as I hope to be able to breastfeed this time (failed last time due to lack of support from hosp/midwives and debility of C section). At least as you say Aoifen, I now know the basics whereas I had never even changed a nappy before ds!

Am glad you said you're already wearing pregnancy leggings Yoga, as I was considering going and digging them out of the loft, but felt it was too soon, but if you're doing it then I don't feel so bad! I'm really small and was like an elephant when pg with ds, who weighed in at a hefty 9lb 3oz! (DH was almost 11lb when he was born, so we're guessing its genetic) Am really hoping this one isn't so big as my little frame could barely cope last time and I was on crutches near the end. I also got sick of people saying things like 'have you not had it yet?' when I was only like 6 or 7 months! I guess when you're small any bump looks very obvious.

Glad you're symptoms are bit lighter this time too Yoga. I'm the same although wonder if it may just still be too early (am 7 and a bit weeks).

Meant to say, I got my appointments in for my booking and scan today, feels a bit more real now!

[yogafan]

It sounds like you had it quite rough tiny, hopefully this time will be MUCH easier. I really feel for you about the breast feeding, I had problems with it, nothing anyone could do to help in hospital at all, no latch, no feeding just constant failed attempts on top of hand expressing, and then formula and sterilising - and obviously very little sleep. Exhausting and depressing. My community midwife recommended nipple shields which were a miracle, used for months and made breast feeding possible in the end, but the while thing was so so stressful. Good luck this time round, I'm sure we can talk about it more nearer the time and offer each other support.
I'm small too, but my big belly looks about 3 or 4 months pregnant! One of the things I'm looking forward to about having an actual bump is being able to show it off, rather than try to disguise that area with layers/loose tops. Haven't had a flat tum since I took up beer drinking at university... Sorry to hear you were using crutches last pregnancy, that must have been rough. Here 's hoping for an easy ride this time round!

[Tinyflutterby]

Hi there, well definetly going into the loft this afternoon to dig out the preg leggings as I too seem to have ended up looking about 3 or 4 months preg over the weekend and my jeans and leggings are all really uncomfortable now. Just wondering how I'm going to hide it for another month!

Unfortunately morning sickness arrived with a bang yesterday, thought I'd got away with it this time, but apparently not so. however this morning I ate dry crackers before getting out of bed and put on those travel sickness wrist bands and so far today (touch wood) have not felt just so bad.

Yoga - yes would love to discuss bf with you nearer time. Am hoping will have put good support network in place this time as I have a couple of close friends who have bf now.

[aoifen]

Hi Girls

I hope you had a nice weekend. We were at my friends baby's 1st birthday yesterday. It was great fun - she has a room off the kitchen which she's turned into a kind of soft room. So DS spent a lot of the afternoon in there having fun with the other babies. He started crawling/ dragging himself along by the arms the other day so need to properly babyproof the house. DH is abroad again - the second week out of 4. So I guess I'll be going for my first hospital visit with my mum. Again. Last year was unavoidable but this time it's idiotic forgetfulness on his part so I'm a bit annoyed. I was 100% confident the last time but have a small worry in the back of my mind in this pregnancy so really would prefer him to be there.
I'm also planning to BF again. The first 2 weeks were pretty grim but we loved it after that. We also needed shields, but they came too late to avoid mastitis and my left boob switching off. Thankfully I am no longer lopsided and vain though it is one of my priorities this time will be keeping both in working order .
I think my morning sickness and fatigue are finally improving. Today is the first time in weeks that I felt able for more than the bare minimum. Funny - had also resorted to the travel bands over the last few days and they do help.
Well i'm off to bed - such a granny!

[Tinyflutterby]

Hi girls, Aoifen, hope you get the result you want and everything works out ok. When is your appointment? Mine is a week away and my scan is on the 15th.

Travel sickness bands and regular snacking seem to be keeping the nausea at bay and I think the indigestion may have passed, although this has been replaced by extreme fatigue today. My sis-in-law is staying tonight and I nearly collapsed trying to put sheets on the spare bed this morning! She's actually 7 months pregnant so it's going to be weird having to keep quiet while she's here!

[aoifen]

My appointment and scan are next Wednesday. It may seem a bit crazy but I've booked a private one for tomorrow. DH will be home tomorrow so we can go together. That way (hopefully) there will be no surprises next week and I can go alone and do some work whilst I wait! Seriously need to shake myself up and get out and enjoy the nice weather! Glad the nausea is settling Tiny - roll on trimester 2 and the 'blooming' phase...

[aoifen]

Happy Friday all.Had my scan yesterday, all is it should be and one baby only! Have a lovely weekend

[Tinyflutterby]

Oh I'm so glad Aoifen, that's great news!x

[yogafan]

Horray, so pleased you've had a good scan Aoifen and seen your baby. Wow.

Tiny - did you have your scan today? Hope it went well.

I've just got back from France (felt very sorry for myself not being able to enjoy all the wine and cheese and salami and stuff I would usually have gorged on) where we ended up telling the friends we stayed with, AND my DP's dad and his partner. It meant they were a lot of more understanding of me being pretty useless (I've been so tired, but strangely the nausea really comes and goes, not like last time when it was always there in the background)

Good luck for second scan tomorrow Aoifen!

[Tinyflutterby]

Your trip to France sounds lovely Yoga, it's good just to get away even if you can't enjoy what you normally would. My midwife appointment is tommorow, but my scan isn't for another two weeks. Feeling bit nervous about it, just hoping everything's ok.

Told my mum yesterday and her first words were "well that explains why you've been looking so awful the last few weeks" !!! Thanks mum, didn't think I looked that bad! She was happy for me really though and it's a weight off my mind as I kept almost putting my foot in it and I kept thinking she would guess.

I'm pretty tired too, but the nausea comes and goes and definetly isn't as bad as last time. Just feeling very run down - mouth ulcers and cold sores just now. Hungry all the time, in fact just getting ready to go to bed and feel like I need to eat again. Craving salt, like crisps, which I never normally eat.

Anyway, good night all.x

[yogafan]

Hope you guys had a good night, I've been up with DD since 5... We did have a lovely time in France, DD loved it and it was really good spending time together as a three. I'm really looking forward to being a four person family but I'm trying to savour the relative harmony of there being just the three of us.
Sorry i got it wrong about your scan dates tiny. I've got to wait ages too. I'm excited and nervous, trying not to think about it too much. Got midwife appointment booking in next Thursday, so hope she listens for (and hears) a heartbeat!
Hope it feels good that your mum knows and is happy for you tiny. I'm looking forward to telling mine, but think she's probably guessed already as I wasn't drinking at a big family party recently. I might cave in and tell her after midwife appointment if we hear a heartbeat...

[aoifen]

Your holiday sounds lovely yoga - even if it was a bit more tame than usual. We are taking a week off in a few weeks. I was supposed to organise something abroad but between trying to study/feeling rubbish/and DH not being around I haven't got around to it. Going to do countryside break then hopefully some sun in September.
Good luck with your appointment Tiny. I'm sitting in the consultant waiting room now. DS had a dislocatable hip so we had regular hospital visits until recently. I'm wondering if they do a loyalty card for the car park it feels like I'm always here!
I know what you mean yoga about enjoying being a trio. I'm feeling advance guilt that DS is going to have us to himself for such a short time. Also realised on Monday that it's going to be tricky to keep the water babies up for 2. We are so lucky though, have a few friends having fertility treatment at present. Delighted to avoid that.
Just heard that my sister in law had a baby girl this AM

[Tinyflutterby]

Hi girls, had my booking in appointment yesterday. It went ok, but I had really high levels of glucose showing up in my urine, so I'm now just worrying about that. Other than that I was told I can choose to have another section or a natural birth, still very undecided as there are risks with both. I was also told to take vitamin D as we don't get enough sun in Scotland and babies are being born with rickets - can you believe that? Can't remember when the midwife said I was to start taking it though, as there was so much information it was a lot to take in. Just really worried about the glucose.

[aoifen]

I'm sorry to hear about the glucose Tiny - i assume you werent diabetic in the previous pregnancy. my understanding is that they'll recheck an early morning sample which often reads clear, so try not to panic just yet!
Babies get vit d supplementation here but not recommended at the minute for pregnant mums. DS absolutely loves his, he starts licking his lips the minute he smells it.
I didn't realise you had a CS last time. I did a Gentlebirth programme last pregnancy. It's a bit hippyish but based on the fact that pain increases with anxiety and stress and so focuses on relaxation. It didn't do too much for me when the time came but was great during the pregnancy. A friend however found it amazing during labour and felt she didn't need any pain relief. The point of this long winded story is that they do a VBAC programme if you decide to go that route.
DH arrived home this afternoon so i have absolved myself of responsibility for DS who was awake teething on and off all night. If only I had the energy to actually go and do something!

[yogafan]

Tiny, sorry to hear you've been worried about glucose levels. Are they planning to check again? Did they give you info on what could be done? I don't know much about it, but really feel for you. I hope you're not getting too stressed about it.
I can't believe they are so worried about rickets in Scotland - it is not that dark! I used to live in Edinburgh and always thought the light was really beautiful, and daylight hours aren't that different from where I am now (London). Anyway, I'm sure vitiamin d is a good thing to top up on - doesn't it affect your mood too, make you more cheerful? Maybe I should take some...
What made the cs necessary first time round tiny? Are you worried same thing might happen again? A friend if mine laboured for hours but her DS head was stuck and eventually had cs and was told she might need another next time round as shape of her pelvis could have played a part. But she is planning to consult an independent midwife as more active assistance could help next time? I did hypnobirthing which I found really helpful, it helped me feel that I could be calm and hold it together whatever shape my labour took (I wasn't really tested though! Just lasted 6 hours, vaginal birth with episiotomy)
Nice news about your sister in law aoifen, and pleased your DH is back to take over some childcare. I'm still finding things pretty tiring and I think my DD is getting a bit fed up of me being so low energy. I'm hoping this only lasts another month, then we'll start being all glowy and full of energy for the second trimester... Fingers crossed.