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Trigger warning - telling children of parent's death

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MarchMare · 09/03/2020 11:12

DSis died two years ago after a very long, cruel illness. She was in her 40s, lost mobility, sight and had early onset dementia caused by radiotherapy. She had to go into a nursing home because of the level of care needed. She was a single parent to two teenage children.

I was with her when she died. It was a privilege to be there. However, every day I think about what happened next. An A&E nurse friend told me that they never tell relatives that the patient has died; they tell them to come to the hospital.

After DSis died, I called her children and asked them to come to the home. It was 30 miles away and would mean a 18 year old leaving work and driving, collecting his 16 yo sister en route. I told the care staff what I'd said and they told me to call back to give them the news of their mother's death. My instinct was not to, but thought they knew best. Both were very upset; my niece was hysterical and on her own. Heart breaking.

When they got to the home they were in bits. It was obviously going to be a difficult day, but I feel that by not going with my instinct I made it so much worse. (and it was sheer luck that nephew drove 30 miles without an an accident on a bad road in that state).I know it's in the past and nothing can be done now, and both have coped remarkably well, but I keep getting flashbacks to that day.

What is the protocol? Maybe there isn't one?

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Snog · 09/03/2020 11:16

I think it's hugely dangerous to drive after hearing this kind of news.

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NoMorePoliticsPlease · 09/03/2020 11:21

There is no protocol. A lot depends on how prepared the relative are for an impending death and how much anticipatory grieving has gone on. In a lit of cases its best to speak before the death if poss and say the end is approaching so people can start to prepare but is isnt alway possible. Perhaps they had not fully realise dshe was on the last run in, which is surprising if she was in a care home. Our society ignores death until it smacks us in the face. A big mistake in my view

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WhatHappenedThen · 09/03/2020 11:37

I would have wanted to be told straight away. Someone else wouldn't have wanted to be told straight away. There is no protocol.

I guess you could have discussed these options with her children before your sister died. I presume they knew she was dying.

The main thing to always remember when something tragic like this happens is for everyone to be kind to one another and for everyone to be kind to themselves. It so normal to overthink everything. Things you should have done or said.... it's too easy to have regrets.

I'm so sorry about your sisters death.

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Celeano · 09/03/2020 16:22

I’m sorry your sister suffered such a cruel illness and death.

As pp have said; there is no particular protocol. But I can’t help feeling that as soon as your nephew and niece were asked to come to the home, they must have assumed the worst? Because their mum was clearly suffering and getting progressively worse? So it may be that the person who advised you felt it was better that they knew exactly what the situation was rather than being 99% sure their mother had died but without actually having been told IYSWIM? Sometimes complete certainty is less frightening.

There is just no simple answer. I think the main thing for me should I ever be in such a situation is I would perhaps try to see if someone who could be supportive was with the person being told over the phone, rather than alone. So maybe I would call someone else (a prearranged person if possible) and explain that I would shortly be calling Person A with some difficult news and could they be there?

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MarchMare · 09/03/2020 17:09

Thanks, everyone.

It wasn't unexpected. We had been told several times before that the end was close but she always rallied. Then at Christmas we were told it would be days at most (sepsis) and she died middle of February. A few days previously she was sitting up in a chair telling jokes and planning a trip out the following weekend. I know from similar situations that this last "burst of life" doesn't mean improvement. But I'd seen it before; I wasn't the teenager losing my mum. There was no one around to offer any support except me and I think I messed up.

I'm not looking for sympathy. I just wanted to be clear that there was a set protocol and it seems there isn't. PPs are right - every situation is different.

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VividImagination · 17/03/2020 19:56

I was a nurse. I learned from more experienced staff to phone and say that the patient had “taken a turn for the worse” and ask people to come in and tell them once they arrived. It was thought it would be better for them to be told in person. However I sometimes found that people would rush in, expecting to say their last goodbyes only to find they were “too late”. It often resulted in very upset and sometimes quite aggressive relatives. I moved to giving the news over the phone. I feel it let people prepare and be able to decide what they wanted to do next. Whether they wanted to come immediately or later or sometimes not at all. There is no protocol. You did what you believed to be best and that’s ok. Can you talk to them about it now and see how they feel?

I’m sorry for the loss of your sister Flowers

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Catty99 · 26/03/2020 22:53

Well, I have no idea on official protocol but human being protocol is to muddle your way through heartbreak, tough times and distressing events. You couldn’t have known which way would be better, you just acted out of love for your sister and for her children.

I hope you find a way to lay those flashbacks to rest, and I’m sorry about your sister.

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Permenantlyexhaustedpidgeon · 26/03/2020 23:00

When my dad died my brother was 300 miles away and I remember the doctor saying to tell him to drive home but not tell him why till he got here. I couldn’t do that - it was a sudden death and he would have driven for 300 miles wondering what the fuck was up and imagining all sorts. I ended up telling his partner and asking him to go be with him (he was at work) so i could tell him over the phone with them together. I don’t think there is a right or wrong thing to do. You make the best decisions you can, with the best interests of those you love at heart. It might not be perfect, but you did the best you could x

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bombaychef · 26/03/2020 23:24

With both my family members who died in a hospice, they phoned in the night to let us know and we went early in the morning . We also got calls when they thoughts it was near the end...

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SoapIsYourFriend · 28/03/2020 21:25

You did your best and accepted professional advice. Flowers

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Eleanorrrelephant · 28/03/2020 21:28

God I’m so sorry to hear what your sister went through. Too awful for any words SadFlowers
You have no need to feel guilty.
Have you spoken to a professional about how you feel ?

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Neednewwellies · 29/03/2020 18:56

I think you sound as though you have PTSD. You are showing classic symptoms such as the constant flashbacks and replaying it over and over in your mind.
It may help to talk to them both together. Explain that you wanted to wait until they arrived but the nurse told you to tell them the truth. Tell them you’re sorry if it made things worse and then remember that the truth is, nothing can make hearing that any better. Their mother would still have been dead, still died the same day etc. Then perhaps consider some counselling for your own grief which seems on hold due to your (misplaced) guilt. Flowers

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