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DH has died - conflicting emotions

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thebluewidow · 23/03/2019 10:07

Name changed for this due to unpalatable details and total unreadiness to share them in the real world.

DH died just over two weeks ago. It was unexpected - I'd seen him earlier in the day and he'd been happy and healthy (seemingly), but hours later he was lying dead in the street in a city near the south coast, where he'd gone on a work assignment.

The police came to tell me and I have spent the last few weeks in the usual shock, sadness, fear. I've been visualising him round the house on his last weekend here, and it's left me full of so much grief. I can't believe I'm not ever going to so much as touch him again, or feel the comfort of his presence.

But.

Our relationship was troubled. He was a recovering addict who sometimes relapsed, at which point he'd disappear, draw large amounts of cash out of our accounts, and binge use cocaine. I'd never know when it was going to happen, and it always happened far away from home, but he'd manage to track down drugs and then he'd be gone, usually for about 12 hours straight. He would be totally uncontactable, and then turn up again full of remorse, tears, desperation that he'd never be able to stop. He did all the rehab stuff but always ended up falling down the same hole.

This put massive strain on our relationship. I had to hide credit cards, block bank accounts. There were long stretches where he didn't use during which I would gradually feel more secure, but then bang, he was gone again. The times he was here was possible worse as his moods were awful, he was snappy, sulky and dissatisfied often, and very very absent emotionally and physically, as he spent much of his time involved in activities to "keep well", that being things like NA meetings, the church, etc etc. Before the drugs altered his brain, he was the kindest, most gentle, generous, emotionally intelligent person I'd ever known, and that person was still present but I saw less and less of him. By the end it felt like he had totally lost interest in me.

I was planning an extraction from the relationship, but it would have taken time and of course I always hoped that in the meantime he'd get on top of it. Mentally and emotionally though, I'd detached as much as I could and was anticipating leaving at some point. He was aware I had this mindset.

Since he died, I've found out all sorts of stuff about what he was up to. He'd ordered loads of women's clothes on the internet (which I'd unknowingly taken delivery of) and his binge behaviour had diminished but he'd switched to taking little and often. He'd visit prostitutes where he'd dress up and take the drug, maybe for an hour or two, before leaving. Because of this little and often approach, I had no knowledge of what he was doing. I only knew when he binged. The little and often episodes involved a great deal of planning and deception.

I feel so conflicted. Part of me feels like this was inevitable, that sadly the wheels were going to come off. On the night he'd died he'd been with a prostitute and used about £70 of cocaine, as far as I can make out. He'd planned a phone call to put me off knowing what he was doing, and laid various other misdirections. He'd been ordering clothes for several weeks so knew what he was going to do, and despite that was still snappy, sulky and dissatisfied with me when I was home.

I have massive conflicting feelings. I miss the person he was; the drugs had such an effect on him and it's so sad they turned the wonderful person he was into such a shitty individual. I feel like this was the only outcome, and then feel guilty for feeling a sense of relief.

Has anyone out there experienced similar? Just wanting to know I'm not alone.

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Lemonsquinky · 23/03/2019 10:13

You are having to grieve the loss of who you thought he was, the physical loss of him and recognise and deal with your feelings about his behaviour and addiction. It is a lot to deal with. I think some counselling would be helpful to you .Thanks

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Lougle · 23/03/2019 10:30

I don't think any emotions are unreasonable when your DH has died. Be kind to yourself. It sounds like you are just finally feeling the emotions that you've suppressed for years. I hope that, in time, the bad memories will fade and the good memories will become sharper for you. Flowers

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purpleme12 · 23/03/2019 10:38

I haven't experienced this but I guess I just wanted to say your feelings sound totally natural and reasonable. I can see why you're confused as when someone dies it's like there's one way to feel. But there isn't.

I not sure what to advise but I'm sorry for what's happened and everything that you're feeling is valid

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DolorestheNewt · 23/03/2019 10:40

What a sad thread. I'm so sorry, OP. I don't have a similar experience of the same intensity, but I do completely understand the sense (if I've understood you correctly) that you are grieving the healthy relationship that used to exist, and that you were always hoping would be restored. There is nothing wrong - nothing - with feeling conflicted about his addiction. I am no expert, but I am fairly sure that grief is rarely pure.

I wish I could say something more helpful, but I am so so sorry for your loss.

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MayFayner · 23/03/2019 10:43

I’m so sorry. Your grief is your own, and don’t feel you “should” feel a certain way. All your feelings are valid. Flowers

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thebluewidow · 23/03/2019 10:43

Thank you so much everyone for the reassurance. I am having some guilt at the fact that, when I spoke to professionals in the past about the situation, there was a general agreement that "perhaps this could be the best outcome", because it seemed it just wasn't going to be resolved any other way.

I mean - if I'd known some of the things about what he was up to over the past three months, I'd be seriously considering divorce right now. It wasn't acceptable, it just wasn't. Sorting through all the probate stuff now feels like I'm divorcing someone who isn't here.

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DolorestheNewt · 23/03/2019 10:47

Sorting through all the probate stuff now feels like I'm divorcing someone who isn't here.
Do you think you can reframe that feeling to something more akin to taking care of his wishes now that he's gone? The fact that you would have been considering divorce isn't really the issue. The fact is that you stuck with him through a lot of stuff you did know about, and you are now entering a new chapter (sorry, that's such an awful cliche).

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thebluewidow · 23/03/2019 10:49

Oh and the cards. The condolence cards that are coming by the dozen, all telling me what a gentle, kind, wonderful person he was. And he WAS, to an unusual level. But I just keep thinking "no, he was a git who stropped around the house leaving everyone on eggshells and spent the last hours of his life with another women". As a wife, I'm angry. But I can say nothing.

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thebluewidow · 23/03/2019 10:50

Thanks Dolores. In a way, the anger is helping me power through the grief I think, but yes, I do need to reframe it into something kinder. And yes it's a new chapter, and I need to focus on that. At some time or another the new chapter would have come about, it's just turned up more suddenly than I expected.

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GreenTulips · 23/03/2019 10:55

Why are you carrying this burden? Of coarse you can tell your friends what he was up to. It may help them make sense of your feelings. They may be able to offer you sort form of support.

Let it go, you don’t owe it to him to keep his secrets

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pisspawpatrol · 23/03/2019 10:58

I'm sorry for your loss, of the person you thought you knew and also the loss of the opportunity to deal with these revelations without the grief too. You're dealing with something huge and it's ok to feel however you feel at any moment in time.

Without sounding glib, you aren't the first person and you won't be the last who discovers all sorts of secrets when someone dies. You're not alone in that.

Is there anyone you can talk to in real life? Someone you trust, who isn't going to think you're "speaking I'll of the dead". I think you need someone to share your hurt and anger and the knowledge he wasn't always who others thought he was.

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thebluewidow · 23/03/2019 10:58

I have told a few close friends, but I'm careful about the news spreading further. I need to think of the consequences first, for his children etc. It feels like it's too soon to make that decision.

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thebluewidow · 23/03/2019 11:00

Without sounding glib, you aren't the first person and you won't be the last who discovers all sorts of secrets when someone dies. You're not alone in that.

This is actually really comforting; one of the police officers said similar, but about the drugs. That so many people (especially people like him) are taking this stuff and dealing with the fallout. Does make me feel less isolated. And yes, people do have secrets, and in general people are entitled to. It's the sense of infidelity that's getting to me.

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RandomMess · 23/03/2019 11:02

He was kind and gentle but ultimately incredibly selfish - his "needs" all the way!

Poor poor you ThanksThanksThanksThanksThanksThanks

You must be shell shocked please be very kind to yourself.

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DolorestheNewt · 23/03/2019 11:03

It's the sense of infidelity that's getting to me.
This can't compare, but when my first husband and I separated, which I absolutely 100% wanted, I was stunned by how much the revelation that he was already sleeping with someone else derailed me. I hope this doesn't come across as an insensitive thing to say, but I can only describe it as a massive feeling that I'd been downgraded before I was ready to be.

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thebluewidow · 23/03/2019 11:04

He was kind and gentle but ultimately incredibly selfish - his "needs" all the way!

YES. This. I could get him to focus on other people if I asked him to. If I asked him to stop what he was doing (usually staring at his phone), make eye contact, and focus on the fact that someone needed him. Me, or one of the kids. Then he'd pull out all the stops. But he was incredibly self-obsessed.

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Weaverspin · 23/03/2019 11:04

I completely agree with GreenTulips. You do not have to carry the burden of his secrets any more, and it may be helpful for you through the coming weeks and months to be able to speak more freely with others. While he was alive, you didn't know the full extent of what he was up to - and you had enough to deal with as it was.

I am so sorry that you are in this situation, but I think your conflicted feelings are completely understandable. There's no 'right' way to grieve, and as others have said, you are grieving on many levels.

It's a cliché, but be kind to yourself, and if you can get some support - maybe Cruse, or www.nawidows.org.uk/ or www.widowedandyoung.org.uk/ - just to be able to talk freely with someone, if you don't feel you can with those close to you, it may help.

I wish you all the best, and healing.

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HomoHeinekenensis · 23/03/2019 11:06

Being as he has children it might be wise to channel your feelings in carefully selected directions.
You are dealing with an awful situation OP. You sort of lost him years ago when the drugs got ahold of him and now he is gone physically it's the whole thing over again. I feel for you and not being able to tell the truth must be a right kick in the la la's Flowers

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Crabbyandproudofit · 23/03/2019 11:09

Anger is also a common part of grief, and you have more reason than most to feel angry. Often a bereavement reminds us of other, previous, losses and you are mourning the loss of the relationship you used to have with the man your husband used to be.

None of your emotions are wrong (even the relief and guilt about that) but it must be so difficult not being able to share them with people who are offering condolences for à man who was not the one you were finally married to. Take what comfort you can that people care about you.

I think counselling might help you, simply to be able to say all these things that you feel you can't share with family and friends. I know some bereavement counselling organisations won't take you on for some months after a bereavement because they feel a few months is necessary just to process a loss. Somewhere like the Samaritans might be good for you if you feel you wan,t to vent anonymously (116 123).

Good luck with sorting everything out and be kind to yourself.

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Decormad38 · 23/03/2019 11:09

You are allowed to feel whatever you feel. He pushed you to the limits. Be kind to yourself. If other’s thought he was nice well that’s because they only saw that side of him. Guilt is part of the grieving process but dont get stuck in that. You don’t deserve to Flowers

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Bringbackthestripes · 23/03/2019 11:11

Totally understandable to grieve for the relationship you had, and the person he was, during the good times whilst feeling relief that you no longer have to deal with his deceitful behaviour and his moods. Flowers

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AnotherEmma · 23/03/2019 11:13

Sorry for your loss. The conflicted feelings seem completely understandable.

If you don't mind me asking, have you had a sexual health check?

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Boysey45 · 23/03/2019 11:19

Just concentrate on yourself OP, hes gone and I think you will be miles better off without him. What you feel is what you feel. Tell who you want, what you want, you don't owe him anything.
Go for counselling if needed or ring the Samaritans you don't have to be suicidal or anything.
Its the shock with sudden deaths thats hard as well.

Have you had the funeral yet? I've found that helps with moving forwards afterwards.

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justilou1 · 23/03/2019 11:22

My goodness! He had everyone fooled and you are expected to be kind and maintain their illusion of him... it would be cruel to burst their bubble, not to mention the fallout for the kids. The burden of carrying the truth of who he really was... his dirty secrets, falls entirely upon you - and that’s simply not fair. How dare he die like that - in such a sordid, grubby way that you can’t even openly discuss without hurting your kids!!! He married you under false pretenses and hurt you over and over again. You are entitled to feel all the feelings. I can empathise with your anger and frustration at not being able to express them!

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Annasgirl · 23/03/2019 11:23

I just want to add OP that all of what you are experiencing are normal emotions. Not to the same degree as you, but my DF died a couple of years ago and my sisters and I had a hard time of it - you see he was charming and caring to others but he was an alcoholic (recovered) who was very selfish and uncaring for us. So we were also conflicted, grief for a parent who never really was, for the father we should have had, coupled with anger and also annoyance that people mostly only remembered him as a great fellow, full of wit an charm, and they never mentioned the angry shouty mean man he was.

If you can find someone in real life to talk to that would be great to help you to process this. But until then, feel free to tell us all you want to tell people and we will support you through this.

Can I also say that you can feel whatever you want to, take care of YOU now, find someone close who will comfort you even if you don't tell them your story, just someone who will make you tea, chat to you, - you need comfort. I cannot imagine the shock and horror of all of this.

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