HV has told me to take Ds to the GP, and to write everything down.

[Claire2009]

He's 2.2yo.

• Plays alone, when around other kids he does his own thing, doesn't interact with them.
  
  
• 'Daydreaming' or so it seems, he keeps going into dazes. Lasting 2-3 mins if he's left to it, I can clap/shout/wave and that won't get him out of it, the only way is to poke/touch him.
  
  
• Clumsy, he falls over nothing at least 3-4 times a day.
  
  
• Speech, he has learnt words, then never said them again. So we're back to basics again, of ; Yeah, No, Mama. When previously he was toning/like the sound, of ; That one, That way, Over there, Down there.
  
  Dd can get him talking more than I can, eg, Dd was giving him something earlier but said "Joe, say Ta" and he did, he rarely does when I ask.
  
  
• Not sure if this counts, but he cleans a lot if he can get hold of a baby wipe/cloth he will go and clean the chalk board thingy, leather sofa, anything that looks like it needs a clean I guess
  
  What do you think? Gp appt is in the morning.

[thisisyesterday]

honestly?

i think he sounds pretty much exactly like my ds as a 2 yr old.

he is 4.5 now and there is not a thng wrong with him, well, he's a bit weird, but nothing officially wrong lol

hope all goes well at gp's though

[Claire2009]

Yes, honestly. And thankyou!

HV thinks there is something more there, I'm not sure.

He's had a hearing test, is on the S&L waiting list.

[elvislives]

Don't think the playing alone is unusual for a 2 yo. I watched my DD aged 2.3 playing with a strange child (as in one we didn't know) in a playground for the first time this week- up to now she has just played alongside others.

Cleaning is her favourite thing too (and she doesn't get it from me ) so that is normal 2 yo behaviour.

The other stuff does sound more cause for concern.

[wonderingwondering]

My Ds didn't speak until nearly three, and is now, I am told by his teachers, very bright. He didn't play with other children until he was nearly four, I thought that was quite normal. The clumsiness and daydreaming and speech could be a hearing problem? Esp if it is worse when he has a cold/teething.

Hope all is well, try not to worry too much.

[drinkyourmilk]

Get his eyes checked. Clumsyness etc could indicate a need for a check-up there?

TBH - he sounds fine to me, but i'm not a doctor

[Lulumama]

seems to be a mix of the normal and the possible needs more attention and looking into on that list. HV is doing the right thing by referring you

[Claire2009]

He had a hearing test in May, all was fine there.

He had an eye test at 15mths, he had what seemed like a wonky eye (sorry can't think of correct term) and was told he was a bit long-sighted but it was normal for his age, and to come back in 4mths, which I did, and he was fine.

[lizziemun]

Sounds fine to me.

But then my HV told me to take dd1 to the dr when she had her 10mth checkup as her head hadn't grown enough.

Although dd1 was walking & talking did everything she asked i was told if i didn't dhe would report me ss.

Saw dr apolgised for wasting his time, told him what HV said and he asked what he was supposed to do about it as it was obvious that she was ok.

[cyberseraphim]

I think a check up would be a good idea though may depend on whether GP has enough experience with child development. He or she may refer you on to a Paed but it depends on how you feel as you might have to push for a referral. There are some things in what you say that suggest a paed assessment might help to get you a better sense of how to help him to develop.

[TheMitsubishiWarrioress]

My DD had very delayed speach and she had speach therapy (never shuts up now lol).

They used a technique of talking through a teddy to make her less self conscious about speaking.

She would talk for a 'bear'

I.E 'ooh. shall we give teddy juice or milk?'

'lets get teddy dressed do you think he should wear a jumper or a t-shirt'

Also we were encouraged no to say..'say x or y' but ask a different question, so instead of

'can ds say mug?'

try 'does ds want his drink in a mug or a beaker?

bad example but I hope you get my drift.



she was very self contained and to a certain extent can take or leave her friends.

I wouldn't worry too much, but I would keep a diary o that if at some point the concerns have some grounds, you have the information at hand, rather than trying to worry.

[TheMitsubishiWarrioress]

to extend use of words to 2 or 3, we would ask something like..'do we want to wear the blue t-shirt or the red jumper?'

[Tambajam]

Parallel play and not playing 'with someone' is completely normal for a child of that age. I'm surprised your HV has flagged that up as a problem.
Cleaning is really common to.
I think the day-dreaming as you describe and the speech are worth checking out but I don't think it's panic stations.

[saintmaybe]

Tbh the most worrying thing for me would be 'losing' words, and I would stress that to the gp

What's his other communication like? Does he have 'little noise' conversations with you, like 'It's time to go to the park now'
(looks pleased, stands up,) 'Uh!'
can you find your shoes?
'Um' (looks thoughtful, goes to get them

and I know it's always said, but pointing?

All the other things you've mentioned sound pretty normal to me, at least by themselves. Good that your HV seems to be on the case though.
Come back and let us know

[3littlefrogs]

Going into dazes would be something I would refer to GP. (I used to be a HV, many years ago).

IMO it is better to refer, even if it turns out that all is well. HVs can't win - they get criticised for not picking things up, and they get criticised when they do.

[brimfull]

Agree that you should emphasise the losing words and frequent dazy phases.

HV has done the right thing by recommending a visit to the GP

[bubblagirl]

i think you should go get any concerns out i was told time and time again ds was lazy he will speak when his ready his just a typical boy glad i didnt listen these people are not professionals and if you have genuine concerns go with them it may be something minor that needs attention

its always best to have early intervention i cannot stress that enough i took ds at 2 as not many words lost the ones he did have

if all is ok great if not your there at good age to do a lot of work to get him where he needs to be but do go and get him checked out i would prefer a professional to say no all is ok than people that haven't met or seen my ds

[StealthPolarBear]

Hi Claire,

I notcied this last night but don't have much to add - sorry you have had all this stress soon after his hearing test. Hope it all goes well this morning.

[Claire2009]

Hiya,

Gp asked a few questions, how was he after the dazy bit, tired, whingy, or just back to normal. He goes straight back to normal & continues playing so he said it didn't sound like a seizure, but I'm to keep a diary for the next 4-6 wks, then go back and show him. He didn't seem overly concerned about his lack of speech or falling over, he basically said "That's 2yo boys!"

[Claire2009]

Sorry, forgot to answer questions.

If I say "Joe, shall we go to the park?" he says "Yeah" so that's ok. He says "Football" quite a lot too, but again, the words he was saying more of, have gone, he doesn't try anymore.
If I ask him to find his shoes/blanket/whatever he goes to find it without saying anything. He usually brings whatever I've asked him to get back.

He makes a couple of "Uh" and "Errrrr" noises too.

[StealthPolarBear]

That sounds reassuring. If you personally feel concerned, can you push for a referral to a paediatrician? Or are you happy with how things are and what he says?

[bubblagirl]

give yourself little while if you feel you want referral to maybe speech therapy etc then go back and ask for refferral i did you can always come off a list if all ok its really long wait so to leave it too long you would wait even longer if he did need it

[Claire2009]

Well I'm going to give it this 6wks to see how he goes, and just keep a diary of him & the dazy times. If then I feel the GP isn't doing enough I'll ask for a paediatrician referral.

[saintmaybe]

Sounds good.

[shhhh]

Hope you get the results you want claire.

Ds (29 months) went through a stage of being clumsy, falling over fresh air etc. BUT we just put it down to him being clumsy etc.

I think the majority of it sounds like typical boys/toddlers.

Ds has dd to play with BUT there are many occasions where he will sit and play alone. Will happily ride his cars along the floor and have a conversation with them. From what I read and see on mn though, boys can be a bit delayed with things and can also be more laid back iykwim (hate the lazy term)

Ds also loves cleaning . But then so does/did dd (4). Think they watch me to much . I often come into the lounge to the baby wipes out and everything wet..couch,TV,walls,toys etc..

Keep us updated x