another 'speech' thread

[LadyVictoriaOfCake]

dd2 speech is still a bit jumbled (5 and at school). but overall is getting clearer, and have learnt a few triks for getting her to slow down and try and get her to correct her own little ways. hard to explain.

anyway, moving on to dd3(2 and a half years old),. raised exactly the same, same issues around home regarding peters illness etc etc. but her speech is absolutly amazing. i am amazed each day at how easily talking comes to her. dd1 spoke normally, but didnt have the range of vocab that dd3.

what makes a difference? the only real difference is that dd3 has had more adult interaction when we have spent time at the hospitral and not as many young children to play with as dd1+2 (that bit makes me feel bad for dd3).

is speech influenced by surroundings, or will a child speech be the same no matter what?

i feel so relieved that dd3 speech is so good, as she was a bit slower to talk but has really picked up tremendously. but am still so bogged down with dd2 speech, and worrying about her.

(justwondering out loud really)

[dinny]

Interesting - my neice spent her first 3 years in and out of hospital with a tracheotomy until she was 4. They thought her speech would be delayed and it is, in fact, amazing and has been from the second the trachy hole healed up. Her mum and dad are sure to all the time she spent in hospital, and then at home with 24-hour nursing care.

so, yes, I think surroundings do count. have you read my thread? I think I have always really babied ds and even now I am surprised people think he should be able to speak, lol.

[TotalChaos]

I think surroundings can make a difference but not always. I think there are a lot of different factors to speech problems.

[wrinklytum]

DS 1 speech is fab.(sorry sounds a bit boasting not meant to)
dd Very limited.Has global delay and glue ear

[LadyVictoriaOfCake]

i know there are lots of issues surrounding speech problems.

just wondering why i have twogirls on different ends.

i know its probably not down to anything i have done/havent done.

just spied your thread dinny. i would wait for re-referral to SALT and see how he is.

dd2 has been having SALT for almost 2years and we are still working on her SSSSS sounds. (she can be really hard to understand and gets ery frustrated)

[hunkermunker]

Don't know, really - I think some children have an aptitude for words, like some can balance really well or whatever.

DS1 spoke fairly well but had an odd stuttering thing where he'd repeat the final consonant of words whenever he had a "surge" in the number of words he knew, or when he transitioned between single words, two words and longer sentences.

DS2 is 21mo and just seems to know words without anybody telling him, but he only says the first syllable of lots of words - so I am Ma, DH is Da, Noddy is Noh, Thomas is Toh, bus is buh, etc - but he more than makes himself understood! He's a very personable child too - says hello to everyone and waves "buh-bye", etc. He was trying to reach the letterbox on our front door the other day and saying "reach".

[LadyVictoriaOfCake]

aww bless ds2 hunker. dd3 tells me to 'stretch mummy' in the mornings before i get out of bed.

[LadyVictoriaOfCake]

actually its 'stetch mummy, now you make me toast'

[hunkermunker]

LOL at toast demands...I get those too! DS2's very favourite thing is breaking wind long and loud, then saying in tones of some surprise "More pop!"

[dinny]

oooh, Hunker, ds doing that repeating thing - it's like he can't get the words out fast enough (which is prob exactly what it is)

[LadyVictoriaOfCake]

lol. we say 'who popped' dd3 says 'not me, i farted' (can i blame peter and hospital influence for that phrase?)

[moondog]

It really is a fascinating subject.
I ponder it daily in my work as a salt.
Ironically, despite my job and my family's interest in and love for languages (all of us have bilingual children) my dd has a language disorder and attends a language unit.
My ds is a slow talker too.

And yet.....we don't watch tv, read nightly,breastfed for decades blah blah blah.

It's just the way it goes sometimes....

[dinny]

didn't know you were a SALT, Moondog. would you mind giving your opinion on my thread - should I press for hearing assessment (in factk, why wouldn't they have done one?)

[dinny]

here

[moondog]

Where's yer thread?
(And while we are at it,is the Island Hotel on Tresco any good? Have spotted fab 3 day deal.Did you say St Martins (?) was the best?)

[LadyVictoriaOfCake]

just amazes me each day at how easily it comes to dd3.

dd1 had a few minor pronounciation issues, still stutters over words occasionally, but really likes sounds, rhyming etc and takes a keen intereste in things regarding speech, sounds, poems etyc. really loves talking (i can see my phone bill going off the chart when she is ateenager lol).

like i say, dd2 is still jumbled and gets frustrated. but is also never quiet, its like she is trying all the time, and mixing sounds untill she finds what she wants and how to say it. she likes sounds as well, but just cant get it out like dd1.

and dd3 just seems to know what to do.

(i'm sorry if that nmakes no sense whatsoever, buts uit the way they all tackle language andf sounds differently that amazes me)

[dinny]

Moondog - Island Hotel is lovely (we had our wedding night there, was fab). I MUCH prefer St Martin's On The Isle but if you've spied a good deal, go for it, you'll love it.

Expect London prices on Tresco though. Still, for somewhere so beautiful, you can't expect anything else really...

when you thinking of going? x

[dinny]

sorry, Misdee x how is Peter, btw? my dad had an ICD last week.....

[LadyVictoriaOfCake]

dont worry, hi-jack away,.

peter is doing wlel.

hows your dad getting on with the ICD, he was quite worried wasnt he?

[yurt1]

Well ds1 can't talk, ds2 was very slow to talk, now aged 5 he has a good vocab but some unclear speech sounds. I was expecting ds3 to be slow with speech/have speech problems etc as well, but its been easy for him (he's 2 getting on for 3). He didn't speak super early, but he's always spoken a lot and well. He copies everything ds2 says, so in his case it seems that being around a chatterbox child has helped.

I think lots of nature rather than nurture when it comes to language development tbh.

[moondog]

May
I want to take the sleeper from London.

[dinny]

have done the sleeper many times - it's great. stops in Plymouth for yonks though

[user1492391977]

My 10 year old daughter, soon to be going into secondary school, often relies with dog barking and cat meowing. She often walks up to people and woof's at them to get attention, and when introduced to people she also woof's or meows.
When she has not been given attention for a while or does not know how to reply to someone she also responds with an animal noise with actions.
If next to myself, or my husband, she does cat mannerisms such as rubbing, scratching (herself against us) and licking.

I myself am an older mother, and she is an only child.

Please help, I can't stand it any longer and worried about what will happen when she gets to secondary school.