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She simply doesn’t give a fuck

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MyBreadIsEggy · 06/07/2018 13:33

My 3yo is driving me to the brink of insanity.
She does not listen to anything or anyone. I’ve also been told that her blatant ignorance is becoming a problem at preschool as well as at home.
Ask her to do the simplest of tasks takes at least 10 times of asking, escalating to telling. It’s like talking to a brick wall. And then when she finally realises I’m not budging and she will have to do the task, she scoffs at me like a stroppy teenager! She is constantly getting out of bed, mainly very early in the mornings - I’m talking 4:30am early - and going into her baby brothers room and waking him. I tell her every night, numerous times “do not go in your brothers room when you wake up”. And yet she does it every fucking day, resulting in a very grumpy, overtired baby. She has a groclock in her room which she consistently ignores, we’ve tried a baby gate on the door, but she just stands at the gate a yells which obviously still wakes the baby.
With the lack of listening and just doing whatever the fucks she wants, I’ve tried:

  • positive attention - ie ignoring bad behaviour and overly praising good behaviour = doesn’t give a fuck.
  • naughty step after a countdown from 5-1 = doesn’t give a fuck
  • removing toys/tv/activities as punishment = doesn’t give a fuck
  • Yelling at her = doesn’t give a fuck
  • Reward chart/jar = doesn’t give a fuck


I’m literally at my wits end, and completely exhausted by her behaviour. Just sat in the front room and cried after I’d finally got them both down to bed last night. I feel like I’m busting my proverbial balls all day everyday to take care of them (majority of the time by myself as daddy is in the military and away all the time), and she just treats me like shit Sad

Is this normal? Am I overreacting by feeling so upset about it all?
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gower4 · 06/07/2018 14:34

Normal. Sorry !! I think 3 is even harder than 2. You just have to keep on setting boundaries and wait it out really.

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MyBreadIsEggy · 06/07/2018 14:41

3 is fucking awful apparently!

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Sleeplessmeanderer · 06/07/2018 22:03

Ha I came on to post about a not listening no attention 3 and a half year old who gets up early and won’t bloody stay in bed. Of course your dd is also tired, that’s not helping the listening and attention either.

Can you put the baby downstairs so you and the baby can sleep and make sure she stays in her room?

I can’t fix the not sleeping with my dd but she stays in her room until we get up and very occasionally goes back to sleep, no wonder you are on the edge if she’s waking the baby up too.

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Sleeplessmeanderer · 06/07/2018 22:06

The only suggestion I’ve got is a reward activity if she stays in bed. I’ll admit, I’ve gotten so desperate for sleep and for her to listen better because she’s slept that I’ve offered treat breakfasts for a good night’s sleep but that is parenting sin bin, so try a reward like trip to the park or favourite tv programme/some other treat she really wants at breakfast time.

I expect it’ll get better in about a year...

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ItGetsEasierTheySay · 06/07/2018 22:30

I don’t have the answers but this is my son...word for word. It’s so draining especially with a small baby.

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MyBreadIsEggy · 07/07/2018 07:21

So she came and got in bed with me around midnight last night - which is totally fine. She woke at 5:15am, but sat and watched Netflix on my phone until her brother woke up 30 mins later which is an improvement. I’ve told her that if she does good listening for the rest of the morning she can choose a magazine when we go shopping.

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LongDivision · 07/07/2018 07:28

Cake 3 was AWFUL. It gets better. My only suggestion (which you probably do already) is to tell her what to do when she wakes up, rather than what not to do. Otherwise the last thing she hears at night is ".....go in your brother's room when you wake up".

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Sleeplessmeanderer · 07/07/2018 09:52

If you’ve got any sort of tablet they can probably figure out how to put it on themselves at this age? Mine often does watch things until I can bear to get up!

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Benandhollysmum · 12/07/2018 01:53

Does she takes naps in the afternoon if so near cutting naps out. If she’s constantly needing to be kept active get her a hobby that will tire her out like dancing or something.my daughter was same and guess what she till doesn’t listen to do as she’s told.its not that it bothers me it’s her constant yapping, she’s so bad even my mum won’t look after her she cannot behave at all and she’s now 12. Advice? There is none you more likely have one of those kids whose sole purpose is to annoy the shit out of you. Stick a tv in her room with Disney channel on so if she wakes up she can watch that without waking everyone else up

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Rainatnight · 12/07/2018 07:48

Poor you, that sounds bloody tough. Flowers

Have you read 'how to talk to little kids will listen'? It's got some good techniques that I use with DD, with some success.

(I appreciate reading a book is probably the last thing you feel like doing right now if you were exhausted! Just when I looked down the list of things you've tried, those slot of techniques weren't on there, so might be worth a try)

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Rainatnight · 12/07/2018 07:49

sort of techniques, not slot

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RubySlippers77 · 12/07/2018 09:32

Sorry to hear you're having a tough time OP - sending Wine!

Are there any classes you could go to which reward listening? Anything your DD enjoys - gym, dancing, music etc. Might get her into the habit of listening/ concentrating? Do you get any free hours of childcare - nursery/ preschool - or are there any friends or family who could take her for a bit to give you a break?

Other than that plenty of exercise. Mine need at least 3 hours outside every day or they are unbearable! Baby might sleep in the pram too which would be a bonus Smile

Once again, sending you virtual hugs, it sounds really, really hard for you at the moment xx

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nespresso1664 · 16/07/2018 21:58

that sounds like my 4yo ds1. I came here to post something similar. is it normal for 4? he used to be lovely. now his preschool is complaining to me that hes boisterous, distuptive, generally not listening. I have tried

  • reward charts and badges
  • taking time off work and separating him from dd on weekends for fun 121 time (lasts for a bit then back to not listening)
  • NOT yelling, after dh said i yell too much. so now i walk calmly to the loo to yell and punch the wall to release anger.
  • he's not only not listening but he's anti-listening and has all sorts of anti-logical arguments.
  • quiet/time out where he goes into a major fit and destroys hallway/room/area he is in
  • talking nicely, he is lying a lot recently

I am majorly depressed about him and used to be a happy person but now im drained. it doesn't help he is very unkind to dd2 who is 3 but very minor issues compared to him.
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