Unsettled 4month old, again?

[fairysnuff]

I was asking about this a few days ago, but DD improved. Now I am having bother again.

She was refusing me tonight as I tried desperately to get my milk through (massaging away!) I laid her down for a min, to compose my worried self, and she fell asleep!
So I left her to it, in the middle of our bed, knowing I would be called for soon

Sure enough 15 mins later she began to shout, she took her feed well, gave me a wee burp but then started to shout. I tried her on shoulder and then sitting on my hip, flopped over my arm This is my favoured position and normally yields results but not these past two days!


DH then tried her on his shoulder and on lap after he might have got one or two (not sure). When I went up I tried on hip again, over shoulder and then a little throwing about! Obviously not really! Just tried to move her from her front to back to get the wind moving. I got one wee burp.

We tried some cold boiled water and a bit of me, though I couldn't get any milk out again, I think she just enjoyed the suke, though she complained about it too. Then finally I laid her down on our bed, to think (me that is not her), gave her the dummy and she started to fall asleep????

20 mins so far.
But am worried about tommorrow, that was almost an hour of her screaming? Why.
Think I will try the infacol before the evening feed or do you think that needs to be used consistently, not just as a one off?

Sorry to be on again, but............Help!?

[CanStarveWillStarve]

Can you link me to your old thread so that I can see what's been considered already? Don't want to give pointless suggestions .

[fairysnuff]

www.mumsnet.com/Talk?topicid=8&threadid=262260&stamp=070112000545

Did that work???
Never tried that before

[CanStarveWillStarve]

Ok, found your old thread. My suggestions would have been useless, as this is unusual for her.

Infacol really needs to be used consistently. If you think it could be wind then use gripewater after the feed - 100 times better than anything else I ever tried.

I would suggest it's either teething or the 4 month growth spurt. My dd once spent 7 hours solidly feeding from me during a spurt . I agree with your previous comment that it's too early for solids. If you are exclusively bf then there's no need for water either - this will just fill her tummy up so that when she bf's she will have no room for the rich filling hindmilk, which means she will get hungry and cry again sooner!

[fairysnuff]

Nope! Oops, Don't know how sorry
maybe if you copy and paste that address it will work?
Sorry, bit of a fiddle.

[fairysnuff]

AaaAh? I didn't know that. That was MIL advice, she breastfed her two sons so I thought it would be good advice, but then that was a long time ago!!!
Although I have to say my gut instinct last time was to tell DH that it was not a good idea, I just couldn't think why, so I went with it.
Funny that eh? I do have to follow my gut instinct more now I am a mummy, it is generally right too. Spooky!

[fairysnuff]

I keep thinking of more questions!

Is a 4 month growth spurt normal? Should I have been expecting it? I was beginning to question myself tonight, that she may need something extra.
That rice stuff people talk about?

What is gripewater, is that the stuff you have to combine with water, I didn't think it was a practical thing with breastfeeding, so used infacol, when she was younger?

[CanStarveWillStarve]

Indeed - instinct is a wonderful thing, but we all question it at times .

A 4 month growth spurt is very normal. In fact it's the biggest growth spurt I'm aware of, and can go on for a couple of weeks or more, which is why lots of people (mistakenly) start giving solids. Don't subject your poor baby to rice - it's like eating wallpaper paste! Wait until 6 months and then just give her bits of soft fruit and steamed veg that she can feed herself with (after playing with it for a while of course!). Check out some of the weaning threads about BLW and I reckon you'll soon become a convert!

Gripewater doesn't get mixed with anything - you just administer a spoon/syringe worth and it works like magic. The most common one is Woodwards (if you're registered with Tesco.com then have a look on there, as they usually have it), but the Boots one is nicer as it's apple flavoured rather than dill.

[fairysnuff]

Oh Thank you. I feel a lot better. I don't want to start her on solids before she is ready, I will just have to start drinking my tigers milk again so I have better milk for my DD.
Feel much better now.

Did wonder tonight and considered another feed, but felt I wouldn't have it so soon after the last and she gets so cross if I am too slow. But I hate to waste my precious expressed milk if she doesn't really want it. So silly I know!

Right, tommorrow Will be better, I will just get DH to give her that extra feed, and try the gripewater so the wind form the etra feed doesn't hurt her.

BLW -Baby Led Weaning?
Ok, I will have a look.

[CanStarveWillStarve]

Glad you feel better .

Just one more thing to bear in mind - breastmilk works very much on a supply and demand basis - the more you feed, the more you produce, so giving expressed milk will actually make it more likely that you'll be short the following night. You really don't ever run out of milk, although most of us have at some point felt like we have.