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What time does your toddler wake up?

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LittleMilla Mon 12-Nov-12 10:41:41

Please help solve an argument in our house.

DS is 18 mo and wakes up crying every day about 6am after just 10.5 hrs sleep. Goes to bed and is asleep by 7.30pm. He is still tired when he wakes but refuses to go back to sleep.

Why time do your LO's wake up and how much sleep do they have at night?


RyleDup Mon 12-Nov-12 20:25:41

Ds is nearly 3. Goes to bed at 6 or 7pm and wakes up at about 8am. He used to wake up really early, but we seem to have got lucky these days.

RillaBlythe Mon 12-Nov-12 20:56:11

I wouldn't bother fighting this one, you won't win. DP invested a lot of anger time into trying to get DD1 to sleep in past 6am when she was smaller. Never ever happened until she dropped her afternoon nap.

TittyBojangles Mon 12-Nov-12 21:13:03

Ds is 2, goes to bed like a dream at 7 and sleeps til 6-630 usually, occasionally a little earlier, even less occasionally a bit later. Naps for 2 hours ish at about half 11.

housesalehelp Mon 12-Nov-12 22:06:44

yup normal - I don't mind mornings so do most of them with DS2 - DH - who is a night bird mostly stays in bed and we go down stairs and watch cbeebies- could your DH do this sometimes if you struggle?
when DS1 was about 3 we got a rabbit clock and he wasn't allowed to get up until the bunny was awake -which was about 7

rocket100mum Mon 12-Nov-12 22:30:46

My dd is 2.5 she's pretty much always been a twelve hour sleeper. if she goes down at 8, shes up at 8. You always know where you are with her. However, my 1 year old twins are a different kettle of fish and have really rocked the boat with my dd sleeping patterns too. But generally speaking go down at 8/9 and get up at 6/7. They still nap for two hours of the day.

WA4 Tue 13-Nov-12 18:33:34

It's suggested that an average 18mth old needs 12-13 hrs a day (inclusive of any daytime naps), but it doesn't matter what "average" is; all that matters is what your LO has.
I think the most important thing is the time that he wakes and wonder if there's anything disturbing him around that time. Is there a neighbour banging a door/car door around that time, the milkman, does the heating come on and it's noisy, is he cold and uncomfortable. You might find that if you could find why he wakes and eliminate it, he'd sleep longer and wake up in a better mood later on.
Hope it helps.

BabydollsMum Tue 13-Nov-12 20:59:40

LittleMilla we're the same with 21mo DD. Even as a small baby she only managed around 12 hours in 24. Now I'm trying to get her to do 8 til 8 (ish) but I fear I'm expecting too much of her. She still naps most days and does exactly an hour but at nights, flipping heck, it's really tough at the moment. We're seeing a sleep specialist at the end of the month so I'm really interested to hear what she has to say. So jealous of the two-hour naps! Like you I couldn't cope with an early waker but I guess if she starts sleeping through she may well become one of those. brew brew brew

LittleMilla Tue 13-Nov-12 21:21:23

I mustn't complain given he sleeps through every night except when ill.

I did hang out on an early waking thread in sleep for ages though as ds used to be up any time from 4.30pm grin? That was solved by a Ferber book but now I've sort of lost perspective on what's 'normal' as I seem to only speak to 7-7 ppl in rl.

General nap is 1-1.5 hrs around midday and averaging 10.5 hrs per night. So max of 12 hrs which just doesn't seem enough. But hey ho.

Sorry not to name check as I'm on my phone. Heating doesn't come on until 6.30 and the bugger is normally awake by then grin. But then he can sleep until 7.45 at times??

Snoozebaby Tue 13-Nov-12 21:37:18

My 24mo sleeps 7-7 with 2hours during the day. It sounds like you need to track your child's sleep. I use an iphone app called Snoozebaby.

LittleMilla Tue 13-Nov-12 21:43:57

Snoozebaby - you are recommending something that has the same name as your profile. Hmmmm hmm

Cynical me would say you're plugging something. Plus you appear to have a mythical child that most read about...

lindsell Tue 13-Nov-12 21:53:32

Have you tried putting him to bed earlier/ having another nap in the day? It's possible that he's overtired and ime that usually means they don't sleep as well and therefore get disturbed/wake up more easily.

Ds1 has always needed quite a lot of sleep, when he was still having a daytime nap (usually of 2hrs) he would sleep 7.30-7ish, he's now 3.8 and doesn't nap but is in bed and asleep by 6.30pm and doesn't wake until between 7.30-8 - I'm lucky I know but then 6mo ds2 makes up for it by waking several times.

Of course every toddler is different and some don't seem to need the sleep but as you say he's still seeming v tired then might be worth trying another nap/earlier bed.

LittleMilla Wed 14-Nov-12 11:17:27

lindsell two naps just don't happen any more, if he naps in the morning then that;s it.

I have considered putting him to be earlier but I am TERRIFIED it will result in even earlier waking. This morning he woke up at 5:50am!! And went to bed at 7:45pm.

I fear we're slipping back in to early waking again which means I'll need to resort to the Ferber technique of being tough confused.

Maybe I'll try getting him to bed for 7.15pm tonight. He's needing an earlier nap today (as am I!) which means we're missing the bloody expensive swimming lesson. All this is nicely coinciding with me accepting a FT job which I start in a couple of weeks.

Sorry for self-indulgent rant.

rrreow Wed 14-Nov-12 17:54:22

DS 18 months. Bed at 8 (asleep by 8.30ish), wakes up at 7.30.

matana Wed 14-Nov-12 19:49:54

Ds is 2 next week and sleeps 7.30/8 till 7.30/8 and has 1.5 to 2 hours nap at about 2pm.He has always loved his sleep and is one of the most active toddlers I know during the day.

vix206 Thu 15-Nov-12 07:25:00

DS is 2.3. Doesn't matter what time he goes to sleep he always wakes around 6AM. Usually he's asleep by 7.30. He has 1-1.5 hours a night. So he tends to have 11-12 hours sleep in very 24. I wish he'd have more but compared to when he was a baby, it is bliss.

vix206 Thu 15-Nov-12 07:28:34

And just to add, tracking his sleep on an app isn't going to help IMO!! I did this obsessively for the first 18 months. Guess what? DS slept terribly, and I obsessed over the data feeling like a total failure of a mother.

The OP is well aware of her DS's sleep patterns so I don't think a sleep tracking app is going to improve things at this stage.

PearlyWhites Thu 15-Nov-12 07:30:53

Dd3 is 22 months she goes to bed at 7.30 and sleeps till 8. I am very lucky smile I do have ds1 at 3 months waking through the night at early riser so it's just as well dd3 is such a good sleeper.

StarMeKitten Thu 15-Nov-12 08:22:06

LittleMilla I would definitely have a go at putting him to bed earlier as waking up crying is usually a sign if overtiredness.

My DD is 22mo but at that age was having 2hr nap about 12.30-2.30 then in bed by 6.45pm to get up between 6.45am-7.15am.

She has always seemed to need quite a lot of sleep though..(like her mummy smile)

LittleMilla Thu 15-Nov-12 13:19:21

So I put him to bed a bit earlier last night - was down by 7.15pm. He slept until 6.20am and then I didn't actually go in to him until 6.40am - he was whinging but not full on howling grin.

Aiming for the same again tonight as I've suspected for some time that he hasn't been getting enough sleep. Also, the Ferber book talks a lot about sleep cycles and by tweaking bed time slightly it can mean he finishes his penultimate cycle that bit earlier so he'll carry on sleeping IYKWIM?

Thanks all for your input on here, very helpful indeed.

WitchesTit Thu 15-Nov-12 13:23:41

Ds 22 months old. Bed at 8pm til 7.30am and one nap mid morning for about 2 hours.

So 13.5 hours in total. He's always been a little darling sleep wise. Coming after his brother who didn't sleep the night through til he was 3, I feel truly blessed.

BlingLoving Thu 15-Nov-12 13:30:55

What about putting him down earlier? If ds wakes up from 5:30 onwards, hes up. No resettling. But if he's still tired perhaps try an earlier bed time. Ds is 18 months and needs to be in bed before 7:15 otherwise he wakes up earlier.

Fantail Thu 15-Nov-12 18:14:35

DD is 20 months. Asleep by about 7.30. Awake between 6 and 6.30. Has on average 2 hours in middle of day. So about 12 1/2 hours on average.

She has recently started grizzling at 5.30ish, sometime she will resettle, sometimes she needs help. My Mum's theory is that this is when she does a wee and she is aware of the feeling and it wakes her. Could be right as she has started to tell me during the day.

vix206 Sat 17-Nov-12 09:07:32

Yes the sleep cycle thing makes sense, I've read that from several sources. Theory is that 7pm is the sweet spot, but I'm finding 7.15 better for DS

MumToAManiac Sat 17-Nov-12 23:08:03

My DS is 18months and he goes to bed at 7ish and that's him til 7.30/8am the next morning. At the weekends he would sleep longer, obviously because we're not getting up for work and disturbing him, he would usually sleep til about 9ish at the weekends. And one memorable sunday morning he slept til 10.45 smile
He usually has an hour nap in morning time just before lunch, usually about 11/11.30am.

LittleMilla Sun 18-Nov-12 07:56:16

So something has got to give as he was up at 5.45am this morning hmm.

Fantail my DS often does a poo to signify that he's ready to get up. I changed him this morning in the dark and then put him back down and he did have another 15 mins of quiet time, but that was it. He's now very aware of what's going on down there and often greets us with "it's a poo!!" and points down below grin.

Had quite a bit sleep yesterday for almost 2 hours and DH reckons that is why he woke up that bit earlier.

Should we be limiting his nap to an hour? He just feels too young to drop his nap, plus he seems to still need one.

He's starting nursery four days a week soon and so I'll see how that all pans out re:naps etc. He actually sleeps on the mats there for 1.5 hours which tells me he MUST be tired in the daytime as that's quite hardcore!

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