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Does this sound like normal toddler behaviour to you?

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petaluma Wed 17-Aug-11 21:13:02

Ds has recently shown fixations on things, bordering on obsessive behaviour, and I am just wondering if this is normal for a 24 month old. He clearly understands a lot and is trying to communicate all the time but speech is slow (only a handful of recognisable words although he can put them into 3 word sentences)

Examples of his behaviour...

He watched a DVD of Peppa Pig for the first time last week and now wants to watch it all the time and gets very upset when even the ad breaks on Nick Jnr come on, and inconsolable when the programme finishes. He indicates he wants to watch it by 'oinking' (!). The crying (not really tantrum type, more just really unhappy) lasted about half an hour the first night and has diminished with a bit of distraction tonight.

He fixates on a phrase eg. "daddy go way" (when dh goes to work) and will continue saying it on and off throughout the say until dh gets home.

He is very particular about things like snacks - he will only 'accept' a snack if he is lifted up to the cupboard where we keep them, and can choose himself. He also has very definite ideas about what books he wants to be read in the evening and won't settle down to sleep without us finding the one he wants.

These are just a few examples, there are others which crop up on a more random basis.

On one hand, he is mostly a very sociable, smiley boy, but on the other, he can turn in matter of seconds into a very demanding, intractable little so and so.

I don't think his speech is out of the boundaries of normal, but I do suspect this is causing him quite a lot of frustration in how he controls his environment.

Anyone got any advice/experiences to share?

tostaky Wed 17-Aug-11 21:18:15

from what you are saying, it seems normal to me... (at least, i hope because that is what my two DSs sound like!!!)

HumphreyCobbler Wed 17-Aug-11 21:20:48

It sounds normal to me too smile

diggingintheribs Wed 17-Aug-11 21:21:46

I would say the tv thing is perfectly normal - DS went through this at that age

the snack thing - that is him having a bit of control

i don't think the repeating thing is odd either. might be worth engaging him in conversation as taking your eg, he might be thinking about daddy

toddlers can be sticklers for things so i don't think that's odd either

as the adult you can choose how much he gets away with. ds was restricted in the amount of tv he could watch and i only let him choose from limited choices. temper tantrum or not!!

Ivortheengine8 Wed 17-Aug-11 21:24:31

It sounds kind of normal I think. My 22 month old DD says 'what's that noise' about a hundred times a day whenever she hears something, puts her hand to her ear and gets a bit scared if she hears something unfamiliar.
I think they just love repetition at this age.
Wouldn't worry about the language though my dd went from a couple of words to a couple of sentences in a matter of a week.

SouthGoingZax Wed 17-Aug-11 21:25:08

My DTs (boys) are 23 months and are talking a lot, but we still have sone similar behaviours to this. We had a complete meltdown yesterday because I ate a gingerbread man that we had decorated. DT2 has started to proclaim that half his clothes are "tangly" and insists that I put him in something else. He also gets very cross if I don't let him help himself to food from the bowl or saucepan "I want to scoop it!". Oh, and anything dry (toast, biscuits) that gets broken also requires a howling fit.
ANd yes to the book choosing.
Yes to demanding, intractable, stubborn, irrational.

I think this is it for us for a couple of years, or at least until their prefrontal cortex catches up!

Sidge Wed 17-Aug-11 21:26:12

Sounds like a normal 2 year old to me.

They tend to like to impose some control and order in, what to them, appears to be a chaotic world. Developmentally they are starting to realise how complex it all is out there.

That's why most toddlers love routine and can be creatures of habit. They often want to wear the same clothes every day, or have the same book at bedtime or the same foods every mealtime.

Just go with the flow smile

CoonRapids Wed 17-Aug-11 21:27:12

Yes, indeed. I was just thinking about my DS who was 2 earlier in the week. Very tricky, but also extremely sociable with new people which is good.

He is obsessive in carrying certain things around the house. If you offer him the 'wrong' thing, he says 'NO'. Then at bedtime he tries desperately to tell me that there is something that he needs in the cot with him before he will go to sleep, usually it's a train of some kind. He then gets frustrated because a) I can't always understand exactly what it is and b) because I'm trying not to give in and let him go and look for the thing he wants.

He also fixates on certain words and phrases. He's keen on the word 'tractor' at the moment and if there's a group of people in his 'audience', he will go round making eye contact with each one of them in turn saying 'tractor' so they can all admire him!

Also very obsessed with having everything older DS and DD have, wants to ride their scooters and take their frisbees away for himself. I want to fast forward to 3.5 personally when there is more logic and reason.

Shannaratiger Wed 17-Aug-11 21:27:17

Speaking from bitter experience make sure you stay in control, or you will have hell when he reaches 4!!! sad I know I'm trying to regain control at the moment. hmm

ginmakesitallok Wed 17-Aug-11 21:28:36

Sounds normal to me - DD2 is going through a phase of not wanting to eat anything we hand to her, we have to either put it in a bowl or leave it on the side.....

She's also taking off her nappy everytime she has a wee and running round shouting "BUM BUM BUM" grin

ginmakesitallok Wed 17-Aug-11 21:29:51

Oh and disagree with Shanna - I think it's important to give kids control over elements of their wee lives.

Mollydoggerson Wed 17-Aug-11 21:29:53

I think they love repetitive tv as it is little game for them, they know whats coming next and are familiar with the repetitive sounds.

SybilBeddows Wed 17-Aug-11 21:29:54

sounds normal. My nearly 2yo spent literally the whole morning the other week pointing at the dvd shelf and saying sadly 'Fireman Sam dvd. Broken.' (which it is.)
Couldn't distract him with anything.

CoonRapids Wed 17-Aug-11 21:29:56

Peppa is better than Thomas!

Cathpot Wed 17-Aug-11 21:31:07

I remember thinking DD2 was like living with a tiny drunk at that age- unsteady on her feet at speed, hugely dramatic passionate fits of weeping one second, a silence and then giggling and lots of gibberish. It was more or less me on a rare night out but in minature form.

earshot Wed 17-Aug-11 21:32:20

That sounds very normal (or we both have abnormal toddlers wink). DS (2.3) current phrase of the week is 'what doing mummy'. All day, every day. Interspersed with 'watch Thomas tank engine mummy's phone' and total meltdown when I won't let him. Serves me right for letting him realise YouTube makes watching all things possible!

KenDoddsDadsDog Wed 17-Aug-11 21:34:42

Very normal. DDs first word every morning is "Peppa ". We also get the phrase a day thing too. Today's were "what's this?" "who's that?" "see saw" over and over.
She's also getting super cross with her doll and pram!

petaluma Wed 17-Aug-11 21:37:31

thanks, yes, I'm glad your dcs seem similar.

diggingintheribs the conversation is important isn't it? I do talk to him about dh and tell him he's gone to work and what he might be doing, and although he just looks quizzically at me, I'm hoping eventually some of it may sink in. Regarding the TV, part of his unhappiness is because I won't let him watch unlimited amounts of it. We have a little Cbeebies in the morning while I get ready and then I let him watch it after his tea before I get him ready for bed. It's been a lovely part of his routine up until this whole Peppa Pig thing! It's great to see him so engaged and giggling at a programme but I don't like him watching it over and over again.

I'm still working on the snack thing - fruit, up until now has been unlimited, but I may have to exert some limits on that as he picks things out and then doesn't eat them, then wants something else from the fruit bowl. If it were chocolate or sweets, that would have been nipped in the bud ages ago!

soymama Wed 17-Aug-11 21:39:43

That sounds exactly like my 2yr old! He must have mummy more than 300 times today. A normal conversation between me and DS
"Mummy!" "yes?" "blue car!" "yes its blue,well done" "MUMMY!" "yes?" "TWO BLUE CAR" "well done!" "MUMMY!!" "yes" "BLUE CAR!!" "good boy" "MUMMY!!!" "yes?" "TWO BLUE CAR!!" "well done!" "MUMMY!!!" etc etc etc

< staggers away to start 2nd bottle of wine>

lostinindia Wed 17-Aug-11 21:40:40

Another 'normal' from here. smile

SouthGoingZax Wed 17-Aug-11 21:41:42

WHile all you mums of 2 year olds are here....

Does anyone else have this?

One of my boys says "Where mummy gone? WHere mummy gone?" When I am RIGHT THERE!!! It drives me bonkers! ANy idea what it is about. I thought it was about having my full attention, but sometimes he says it when I am cuddling him - is he the only one doing this?

twittergirl Wed 17-Aug-11 21:44:15

Sounds 100% exactly like my son who is 2.10. Totally normal toddler behaviour IMHO.

petaluma Wed 17-Aug-11 21:47:15

cathpot spot on analogy!

I have to admit, I can see where ds is coming from half the time (I'm bored stupid of INTG too and my puerile sense of humour quite likes all the snorty oinking of Peppa). Like his mum, he's also developed a taste for Waitrose standard food (handed him an apple from a value pack of apples, he takes one bite, shakes his head, says 'bleurgh', picks up one of my Pink Lady poshy apples, bites it looks thoughtfully at it and runs off smiling) grin

CoonRapids Wed 17-Aug-11 21:53:06

Before we know it they will be going to school. This shall pass [repeat often] grin

CoonRapids Wed 17-Aug-11 21:56:04

Btw - anyone else have a summer born 2yo who will be going to school 2 years from now? I'm trying to get over the shock of this - they're just changing to one point of entry where we are!

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