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Eating fruit/vegetables seems to be against DS (17 months) deepest held beliefs <<baffled>&gt;

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PacificDogwood Tue 09-Aug-11 20:51:28

He is my Nr 4.
He was BF to 13 months.
Weaned on my usual haphazard combination of purees/lumpy food/finger foods at 6 months.

He will take smoothies (commercial or homemade) or banana milkshake if offered in an open cup with a straw confused which means I have to hold things for him as I'd have to redecorate if I left him to it... Also smooth yoghurts sometimes work.

He will (sometimes) tolerate tomato sauce - either Dolmio kind of stuff or baby jar stuff or spaghetti hoops type crap

He has never ever taken a strawberry/raspberry/grape/piece of banana to his mouth - he has mashed them/thrown them/decorated the room with them, but that's it.

He used to allow me to spoon feed him, but no more - he is Mr Independent.

I am not too worried about him as he is the picture of health and is thriving just fine.

But I don't understand what's going on?? And is there anything that has worked for you if you had a colourful-stuff-refuser?

BTW my other three (8, 7, 3 years) were fed/weaned pretty much the same way and are all pretty good eaters - they have their foibles but are easy to cook for. I fully expected DS4 to be sharing family meals by now, but no....

PacificDogwood Tue 09-Aug-11 21:52:24

All of your babies/toddlers eat fruit/veg? Really??

<<begging for help>>

shrinkingnora Tue 09-Aug-11 22:05:51

I am watching with interest as DS2 (my third) is currently only eating meat and cheese. And the occassional crisps/biscuits. The other two eat really well and all three were weaned in the same way. He will drink fruit juice and smoothies (mostly from a straw). He just throws everything else or screams no no no no. He won't let me feed him. Until he was 1 he would try everything but then he had an 8 week bout of bronchiolitis and I think that this caused it. It is driving me insane....

shrinkingnora Tue 09-Aug-11 22:06:16

Bugger, meant to say he is 19 months.

PacificDogwood Tue 09-Aug-11 22:14:28

Oh, shrinkingnora, I think our DSs were maybe seperated at birth grin!

Interesting that you think that having been ill triggered him becoming more picky about eating... My DS had a very badly infected mouth (bit his tongue, badly, got an infection that required hospital treatment and survived on milk only for 2 weeks at the age of 15 months) which made things worse.

I couldn't claim that things were great beforehand though...

AngelDog Tue 09-Aug-11 22:18:52

DS refused all veg including potatoes from 12 to 15/16 months. I just kept offering the veg we were having and he suddenly ate a piece of carrot, then worked his way up from there. I have no idea what changed. Exactly what he'll try at any given meal is hit & miss now (19 m.o.) but he will eat plenty of veg now.

I have found that he's more likely to eat things he's 'helped' shop for or prepare. First he started talking about the veg I was preparing, and throwing it on the floor, then he progressed to wanting to eat it. That didn't work very well with raw garlic or onions, mind. wink

shrinkingnora Tue 09-Aug-11 22:23:57

I'm not sure if things wouldn't have gone wrong for DS2 without the illness but it's nice to have something to blame. I think he coughed so much and probably had a horrible taste in his mouth for so long that he just went off food. Both the others went through a week of iffiness at about 1 but I just ignored it and carried on. Maybe DS2's week coincided with his illness? And I think it is too much of a coincidence that your DS had an infected mouth at that time. They must start to make associations between pain/bad taste and food.

He will not touch fruit or veg (except for smoothies) and now won't even eat anything like cottage pie. He sometimes has a random few spoonfuls of something (chilli the other day!) but would really prefer to eat lumps of chicken, slices of ham and lumps of cheese. I worry about the salt. Sometimes it makes me cry, particularly when we are sat down eating dinner and he sits there shouting "'am,'am,'am" and throwing his bowl at me.

He is definitely the most stubborn of the 3!

shrinkingnora Tue 09-Aug-11 22:26:54

DS2 throws potatoes at me while I'm cooking....

That gives me hope though, Angel. Maybe I should get him more involved with prep etc - I definitely do this less than I did with the other two but I'm so busy.....

Sorry to hijack, Pacific!

PacificDogwood Tue 09-Aug-11 22:32:03

No, no, no hijack, 'tis all interesting smile.

I was once told 'no baby has ever starved in the presence of food' and I take comfort from that.

However, my previous 3 would have long at this age been keen on a little bowl of grapes/strawberries/raspberries to feed themselves with confused. DS1 was awkward in that he would not touch anything remotely wet/sticky so used to eat his half-grapes with a little fork grin, but eat them he did!

And, oh yes, we get a lot of food flung here as well.
DS4 'helped' me make dinner tonight and had a piece of raw carrot in his mouth for several minutes and may accidently actually have chewed off several atoms of it - before he spat it out. But it's a start, right?!

AngelDog Tue 09-Aug-11 22:35:08

Oh, it's so much easier with just the one DC. IIRC DS improved in what he'd eat before I got him helping - I think that just got him being more adventurous more quickly.

DS was fussy in lots of other ways too from 12 months onwards - wouldn't touch anything with a mashed consistency, didn't like mince, 'mixed' foods, anything that looked burger/fish cake-like. I've tried to be as laid back as I can about what he eats & doesn't eat, and I usually offer crackers & cream cheese (which he loves) if he doesn't want any of dinner. He eats more of those sort of things now - again, I've no idea why.

PacificDogwood Thu 11-Aug-11 21:33:31

So, today DS4 had (gallons of) smoothie, 1 banana as a milk shake and absolutely snaffled up a tomato and pasta frigging baby jar! It was left over from our holiday and having my lovingly made lunch thrown across the kitchen, that's what he got (his 3 year old brother ate egg+cucumber+bread from the floor - who needs a dog?? grin).

He did poke some holes into the cucumber slices so is 'exploring' different foods <<clutches at straws>>

How is everybody else getting on?

MissPenteuth Fri 12-Aug-11 11:22:26

We have a similarish problem here, but with meat. DD will eat her own weight in fruit if allowed, and eats a bit of most veg, but will hardly touch meat in any form (other than the little sausages that come in tins of beans hmm). Our 'strategy' (using that term loosely) is to just keep offering it, and hope that eventually she'll give it a go. And we give her plenty of eggs, cheese and yogurts in the meantime to get some form of protein into her.

If you think he should be getting more fruit/veg, could you try sneaking veg into the smoothies (carrot, spinach, cucumber), and maybe pureeing other veg into tomato sauces (peppers etc.)? Would he eat mushy veg dishes like ratatouille?

evitas Fri 12-Aug-11 11:25:16

PD V. loves:
- banana with orange juice and biscuit (it could be rich tea or any other low sugar biscuits if you want): I simple mash everything together.
- meatballs (just mix mince beef + onions + lost of minced carrot + egg+ bread) and just let everything cook with some tomato sauce
- spinach and ricotta ravioli

BaronessBomburst Fri 12-Aug-11 11:31:37

DS won't eat potatoes. DH (Irish) wails at him despairingly "remember your heritage boy!". Then the builders gave him chips. And MIL gave him crisps. He will eat potatoes but only if deep fried and covered in salt.

littleducks Fri 12-Aug-11 11:41:09

DS was like this, I think it was a texture thing....the only fruit or veg he would tolerate was banana......nothing 'wet'

From 6 months to 2.5yrs we persisted with putting a little on his plate and not making a fuss.This wasnt a raving sucess but he did start to eat sweetcorn (corn on the cob first then tinned stuff) and peppers if they were sweet.

I did start hiding veg, mashed carrot/sweet potatoe/even beetroot mixed into mased potatoe, crushed cauliflower into macroni cheese,grated apple in grated cheese sandwichs (add a little mayo).

Then he sucummed to peer pressure at nursery when he started at 2.5 and will now ask to eat satsumas, apples and strawberries. He will still say 'no salad' when the bowl is brought to the table (3.5 now) but I can force/bribe him to eat a few bits of cucumber.

DD was weaned in exactly the same manner (she is older) and loves fruit and its definatley a child not a parenting issue.

littleducks Fri 12-Aug-11 11:44:06

It might be a bit late in the year now, but growing veg helps too...apparently peas straight from the pod that have been grown from seeds are worth trying! I took him to the PYO farm last year and he picked tonnes of strawberries but wouldnt eat a single one confused but you may have a better sucess with that.

angfirsttimer Fri 12-Aug-11 16:15:41

My DS wont eat fruit unless it is pureed in yoghurt. Nor will he eat raw veg (tomatoes, cucumber etc) no idea why just never has.

PacificDogwood Fri 12-Aug-11 18:29:32

Oh, thanks, lots of good ideas (see, I hoped knew I couldn't be the only one with this problem amongst the MMMM wink).

Yep, my next project is dusting my juicer off and trying him with some carrot/apple juice.

I have been trying to 'hide' vegetables, pureed or blended, but unless it comes in a tin or jar he is wise to it...

At least he is not stupid hmmgrin

skybluepearl Sat 13-Aug-11 00:00:37

can you wait till he is really starving and desperate to eat? having avoided snacking earlier. Serve him the veg/fruit as a starter b4 main meal?

shrinkingnora Sun 14-Aug-11 18:53:31

Quick update from me - DS2 will now drink smoothies, and has touched cucumber, tomato, raw sugar snap peas, cooked carrot, french beans and potato. Oh and a blueberry and a piece of red cabbage. He has only put about half of these things in his mouth but I am counting this as amazing progress. Veg no longer makes him sob. He now eats a whole bowl of ready brek in the morning and often has at least half a slice of toast and marmite with it. Today he ate a ham sandwich - all the ham and half a slice of bread. He ate half a slice of cheese on toast yesterday and a marmite sandwich the day before (he began by attempting to pick the marmite out fo the middle but was so hungry he gave in and ate the bread).

We have achieved this by cutting out all snacks and milk (except 4oz at about 2ish and 10oz before bed). I did a three day ham ban to break the cycle (lots of crying and shouting "'am! 'am! 'am!" in a tortured way. No one is allowed to eat anything in front of him except at meal times and we have been trying to distract him as much as possible eg quick trip to the parkwhen he is starting to get peckish. His optimum supper time seems to be about 5.30 so we're going with that where possible although he has gone til six a couple of times this week.

I feel like I am winning and that things are going to be alright!

shrinkingnora Sun 14-Aug-11 19:02:49

What I should have said is that he still shouts yuck and tries to pull his tongue out when he puts wet foods in his mouth. Perhaps he's a super taster!

edam Sun 14-Aug-11 19:08:44

There are lots of reasons for toddlers being fussy about food but two in particular spring to mind. At about 18 months (IIRC) they start to be very sensitive to the bitter taste of some vegetables, such as brassica veg (broccoli, for instance). This is thought to be a smart move in evolutionary terms as it meant human infants weren't going off and eating lots of berries that hadn't been checked by the parents first.

Also illness can put you off eating, even when the illness is over. Glue ear is incredibly common in small children and can make eating food quite unpleasant, especially anything that you have to really chew – meat is commonly rejected.

edam Sun 14-Aug-11 19:09:57

Sorry, meant to say, glad things are looking up shrinkingnora - just because there are reasons for toddlers getting fussy about food doesn't make it any easier, I know...

exoticfruits Sun 14-Aug-11 19:10:08

DS2 has always been like that. You have to be the 'master of disguise' -there are lots of ways of hiding it.

shrinkingnora Sun 14-Aug-11 19:22:56

Really? Because I should like to see someone hiding veg in a slice of ham.... He won't eat any kind of sauce or filled pasta or cottage pie type things or sandwiches with any kind of filling. I am open to suggestions!

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