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Using a country-specific name when you have no links to that place

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Ca55andraMortmain · 17/05/2018 19:45

Didn't really know how to describe it in the thread title!

Basically I've always really liked the name Ianto. I think it goes well with the Mylo, sholto, Arlo trend but is nicer and more unusual (here, anyway). Obviously though it's a very clearly Welsh name. We aren't Welsh, don't live in Wales and have in fact never been to Wales. Is it too weird for us to use it? I'm not sure if most people hearing it would even know it was Welsh (we live in Scotland) but I don't want to seem like we're just appropriating names from someone else's culture.

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PinkCalluna · 17/05/2018 19:51

I’m Scottish, I would think it was a little odd if you used a very Scottish name if you’d never even visited.

Not so odd I’d comment though.

The child will have to spend his life explaining that he has no Welsh heritage though.

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Heratnumber7 · 17/05/2018 19:54

Yes, very odd.
Do you know how to say it properly?

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Ca55andraMortmain · 17/05/2018 19:55

Yeah that's what I was thinking too - if I met an English child called Ruairidh or Mhairi or something I would think it was odd. I wasn't sure if Ianto was an unusual enough Welsh name that it wouldn't scream 'wales' to anyone who heard it (eg I would never use something like Daffyd which is a much more well known Welsh name). I don't even know if that makes any sense...

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Ca55andraMortmain · 17/05/2018 19:56

Yes, I know how to say it properly!

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MrsHathaway · 17/05/2018 19:59

I do know what you mean, and yes I do think it's a bit odd, though only a little bit. I don't think people should only use names from their own narrow culture, but I would want some kind of personal link even if it was "parents had a happy holiday there" or "parents' best man was from there".

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MargaretCavendish · 17/05/2018 20:02

I have a name that's from another country, and not recognised at all by a lot of English people (as I suspect would be the case for Ianto). I spend half my life going 'It's Spanish, I'm not' and while every now and again someone questions it that doesn't happen much. It's a mild pain, but pretty low in the grand scheme of things parents can inflict on their children!

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beela · 17/05/2018 20:02

Could you get yourself over to Wales before you have the baby, then you will have a link (I'm being flippant, but 'my parents went on holiday in Wales while my mum was pregnant with me' doesn't sound too bad?)

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Ca55andraMortmain · 17/05/2018 21:00

Hahaha @beela, it's a good idea but only have a few weeks to go so probably not! I could just tell people that we did though?! Thinking this name probably isn't a goer which is a shame because I do really like it. Ah well, back to the drawing board I guess!

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Ohyesiam · 17/05/2018 21:04

I think liking a name is a good enough reason to use it.

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Buntysoven · 17/05/2018 23:55

I don't really get this cultural misappropriation opinion. As long as that name is not offensive to a culture..eg Cohen.. and it doesn't sound daft with your surname, surely it's a compliment to use it?

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Mumoftwoyoungkids · 17/05/2018 23:59

You must have some Welsh ancestors somewhere. Surely? We all do! Have a look at your family trees. I bet there is a Williams or Jones in there somewhere.

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Dixiestampsagain · 18/05/2018 00:12

Not odd at all in my opinion. My name is Greek in origin and DH Irish (our parent had never been there) and our dd name is Russian (we haven’t been!). Go for it (from a Welsh person!!)

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Joeybee · 18/05/2018 00:13

I've had this dilemma myself, as I love the names Leonardo, Raphael and Luca. However I have no links to Spain or Italy and so it feels wrong to me. It feels pretentious.
On the other hand...why shouldn't someone pick a name they like, even if it is from another country? Why should we all stick to 'culturally appropriate' names? The world is becoming more diverse, maybe naming styles should reflect that too?
I suppose I'm saying it's a personal choice. For me, I'm not brave enough and it doesn't feel right. However I wouldn't judge anyone else negatively for doing it.

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InkSnail · 18/05/2018 00:20

Words are open to us all. Most names are from other countries even if they've now been Anglicised. Freedom of speech includes freedom of naming Smile

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SleepingStandingUp · 18/05/2018 00:24

My parents called my sister Charlotte, it's French. They've never been.

Most names we use in England aren't English. It's not like you're using it disrespectfully

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Dixiestampsagain · 18/05/2018 00:31

Hmm- just updating after I realised I said ‘parent’ not ‘parents’- just wanted to clarify DH and I are not brother and sisterBlush

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NaughtToThreeSadOnions · 18/05/2018 00:33

Thpse of you who think that it would be wrong, how many sean's have anything to do with ireland?
How many alistairs have anything to do with scotland?

Its not reallh that odd or wrong

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YoucancallmeVal · 18/05/2018 00:35

I'm Welsh and happy to share Grin A person who is unfamiliar with the name may well query its origin, but hopefully no-one would ask WHY you have used a name. Just a name and a great one at that.

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LostInTheColonies · 18/05/2018 00:40

What about Ivo - same vibe, but less Welsh!

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ChinaRose · 18/05/2018 00:45

We're in the u.s. some kids in my ds class - Aubrianna, Dario, Luca, Alex, Ryland, Misty, Madison, Tasman.... they are all very individual names. All different ethnicities too (We are in a very culturally diverse area, even for the US). No one bats an eye lid. Chose the name you want! It doesn't need to be George, William, Emily, Olivia, Isla...

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Dixiestampsagain · 18/05/2018 01:10

If you do use it, you have to go to Cardiff Bay to visit the Ianto shrine- it’s bizarre!

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PintOfMineralWater · 18/05/2018 01:24

It's absolutely fine to use the name you want, regardless of where it's from!

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felicitythemangyfox · 18/05/2018 03:15

Tbh I do think it looks a bit "try hard" but then I think the same about a lot of the French names that are popular at the moment so maybe I'm just boring.

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Bouledeneige · 18/05/2018 05:49

My son has a Scottish name (I have Scottish roots) my DD a French name (no French connection at all). But my XH baulked at Seamus. I loved it but we have no Irish roots at all and it would probably have begged that question all the time.

I have a very unattractive middle aged housekeeper name so that had to go more unusual. Neither child ever met anyone with their names.

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Mountainsoutofmolehills · 18/05/2018 05:52

it's a nice name. its fine to name it a welsh name. if i wanted to call my kid Hamish/alasdair and i am not scottish I would. Or call it India, Adelaide, Paris.. Could I not call a girl Siobhan if I am not Irish, it's a great name.

bah- do what you want.

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