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MummyMcCabe Sat 10-Jun-17 07:52:23

Hi. We live in Wales but don't speak Welsh and really like the name Rhian. The way we pronounce it is 'rhiun' and not 'rhiAnne', is that ok? I've heard people be called both see. Thanks!!

Blondielongie Sat 10-Jun-17 07:53:35

The way you say it is right.

Onceafortnight Sat 10-Jun-17 11:24:34

I know a 'Rhiun' and a 'Rhianne'. Either is fine.

llangennith Sat 10-Jun-17 11:36:06

I've only ever heard it pronounced Rhi-anne.

MikeUniformMike Sat 10-Jun-17 12:03:30

It is neither. It is RhEE-an - the an is like the an in can.
The Rh is R and H said at the same time.
I work with a Rhian (in England) and I get comments about how I am the only one who says it properly.

Please think twice before giving your child a name you can't pronounce.

SamiZayn Sat 10-Jun-17 13:44:41

Mike I might be being thick but I can't work out the difference between the second pronunciation given by op and yours. I know both pronunciations

SoyUnPerdedor2 Sat 10-Jun-17 13:59:40

Rhe-un would seem to be the more English (lazy) pronunciation.
More emphasis on the ANNE ending would be the Welsh way.
I would think.

MikeUniformMike Sat 10-Jun-17 14:02:39

The RH sound is not the same as R. It is like a Scottish/Spanish R said at the same time as H.

Rhian does not rhyme with Ian (EE-un) or like Leanne (Lee-ANNE).

Instead it is RHEE-ann. Think of how you say Leanne but instead of saying Lee Anne you put more emphasis on the Lee bit.

MikeUniformMike Sat 10-Jun-17 14:05:28

Soy. You are mistaken. In Welsh the emphasis is almost ALWAYS on the last but one syllable. Rhi-Anne is as horrible as pronouncing Debora as De-BOR-a or Rachel as Ray-CHEL.

SoyUnPerdedor2 Sat 10-Jun-17 14:18:12

Sorry.
I may be confusing it with rhianon?
That would have more of about ANNE in the middle?

MikeUniformMike Sat 10-Jun-17 14:48:58

Rhiannon. Lovely name but I would say it as two syllables or as Rhee- ANN-on. Not Ree-Annan

Gwenhwyfar Sat 10-Jun-17 14:54:20

"Please think twice before giving your child a name you can't pronounce."

This. Can you pronounce Rh?

llangennith Sat 10-Jun-17 15:14:15

Should have added, emphasis on first syllable.

SoyUnPerdedor2 Sat 10-Jun-17 16:14:21

I think the English can be very lazy with name endings.
Lots of names seem to end in "un"
Karen
Dylan (dill-un)
Alan (al-un)
Caden (cade-un)
Cameron(cam-run)
Even those without an n..

Rachel (ray-chull)
Daryl (da-rull)
Carol (ca-rull)
Eden (ee-dun)
Graham (grey-um)
Michael (my-cull)
Steven (steve-un)
Lilian (lily-un)
Adam (a-dum)
Keira (keer-uh )
Anna (ann-uh)

Dixiestamp Sat 10-Jun-17 19:23:40

I know plenty of Rhians who pronounce their names like that (Rhi-un), but also some Rhi-ann pronunciations too.

ItsAYesFromMe Sat 10-Jun-17 19:27:49

It's my name and I'm English and have always said it as 'Rhiun' not 'Rhi-Ann'

IntheBenefitTrap Sat 10-Jun-17 19:39:47

I'm in Wales and speak Welsh and know over 10 Rhians, all pronounced Rhi-un.

Gwenhwyfar Sat 10-Jun-17 19:44:48

"I'm in Wales and speak Welsh and know over 10 Rhians, all pronounced Rhi-un."

Really? And as a Welsh speaker, you also pronounce it like that without throwing up? It just sounds very ugly to Welsh-speaking ears.
Of course, names change and become anglicised. You could argue that Dylan pronounced Dillon is the right pronunciation now though it still sounds bad to Welsh speakers.

Gwenhwyfar Sat 10-Jun-17 19:46:14

"I think the English can be very lazy with name endings.
Lots of names seem to end in "un"

It's not laziness if it's an English name and it's supposed to end with an 'un' sound. I think plenty of English speakers would pronounce a real ah sound at the end of Anna though.

mamapants Sat 10-Jun-17 19:48:00

mike's pronunciation is correct.

CottonSock Sat 10-Jun-17 19:49:52

I know it as Rhi-anne.
Never made me want to throw up, Sorry but thats a silly thing to say

I grew up in North Wales, very Welsh-speaking, where it was definitely pronounced the way Mike describes.

Recently moved to SW Wales where I've met a Rhi-un.

Gwenhwyfar Sat 10-Jun-17 20:14:22

Cotton - it's the Rhi-un pronunciation that makes me want to throw up. Can't help the way I feel.

IntheBenefitTrap Sat 10-Jun-17 20:14:59

Why would it make me want to throw up? How very bizarre. It's their names and that's how they pronounce them shock

SW Wales here too. Very Welsh area.

Blondielongie Sun 11-Jun-17 22:21:54

Gwen - what is the correct pronounciation of Dylan? I always thought the dyl, was pronounced 'Dil' But one of my friends says Dullan. It grates on me a bit - whose right? Am I wrong?

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