Estelle / sibling names that go together

[aufaniae]

This morning I dreamed we called the baby Estelle, what do you reckon?

I also dreamed we used Star as her nickname and that I was defending giving her such a hippy nickname I thought of Star from the film the Lost Boys too. (Who I thought was great when I was 12, obviously my subconscious still does! Not so sure I do as a conscious adult though!)

I've always loved the name Estelle, but I'm not sure if I'd use in reality it as it doesn't really go with DS's Scottish name. (DP is Scottish, and we may live there one day in the future.)

Can you have Estelle and [very Scottish name] as siblings? Does it matter if names go together?

What other NNs are there for Estelle?

[aufaniae]

Hopeful bump :)

[TobyLerone]

I love Estelle!

Neither of my DC have NNs which are anything like their actual names, so I don't think it matters. They both use shortened versions of their names as well, but their actual NNs are different.

Stella would be the obvious one, I should think.

I don't think it matters if names 'go together'. I don't even really know what that means, as a concept. But if Estelle sounds nice with whatever will be her last name, that makes things easier.

[aufaniae]

Thanks for the reply :)

As DS has a very Scottish name, I always imagined DC2 would as well.

Or, possibly, a Welsh name (my parents are Welsh and there is some "encouragement", shall we say, to consider Welsh names this time!). But Welsh and Scottish kind of go together in my mind as they're both Celtic nations. (DS's name is becoming popular in Wales atm, same pronunciation, although a slightly different spelling).

Estelle sounds like a child from another family to me. Am I over thinking this?

Not terribly keen on Stella as a NN.

[TobyLerone]

I don't think you get to choose what people at school or later on will call her, sadly! I think it would automatically be shortened to Stella.

'Seren' is 'star' in Welsh, I think. Would that work?

[BeatTheClock]

I think Estelle is very nice but can't for the life of me see why sibling names should 'go' together.

Can't think of a nickname. Does there have to be one from the off? A nickname will evolve of its own accord if it's to be. The Estelle I know doesn't have one.

[aufaniae]

I've just remembered, I used to joke about my "baby Stella" when I started developing a bit of a belly. (Stella as in beer. )

I cannot have a baby Stella!

[aufaniae]

Nice idea, thanks Toby :)

However Seren doesn't really work with our other names.

[aufaniae]

We may move to Scotland from England one day. Do you think there's anything in the idea that having an obviously Scottish name will help the English children not get bullied quite so much for being English?

[Wafflenose]

I think you are over thinking things! They don't have to 'go together' and I would sincerely hope they won't get bullied for being English

My name is Estelle, and my nickname is Pootle! No need to shorten it.

[TobyLerone]

Meh. I was born in Scotland to Irish and English parents, and don't have a Scottish name. I never got bullied.

Not all children in Scotland are called Morag and Ewan!

[aufaniae]

Toby, but you were born and brought up there. It wouldn't even be a consideration for me if we were living in Scotland (or any other country) now.

What I'm talking about is there's a possibility of moving when the kids are older (maybe 12 and 8 for example).

They will be the new girl / boy, and will stick out for being English. I wonder if a Scottish name will make them slightly more acceptable - tbh I'm thinking more of the parents than the kids really. MIL for example really isn't particularly keen on the English. She loves DS of course, and has grown fond of me despite herself .

I am aware that this is totally overthinking things and if we move what will be much more important are things on all our minds! And that bullies find an excuse to bully no matter what! Also, yes I am totally aware that not all Scottish children have obviously Scottish names!

But still, it did kind of make sense to me.

[aufaniae]

Wafflenose I love your NN

[Groovee]

My friend Estelle is from here(Scotland). We call her Stelly.

[aufaniae]

I quite like Stelly!

[SavoyCabbage]

I know an Estelle and Hamish.

[sununu]

lovely. I dreamed ds's name too, I was yelling it across a great distance!
stella, ella, ellie, essie?

[aufaniae]

One of my best friends has an Ella.
Tricky things names!

[aufaniae]

sununu that's lovely :)

[amck5700]

Children get bullied for all sorts of reasons but I wouldn't say now that being English is a particular reason. I am in Scotland, we are all Scottish, my sons have Scottish/Celtic names - eldest got bullied, fairly rough school - plenty of English kids in his class who weren't bullied.

Scotland is actually quite cosmopolitan nowadays :)

In my street we have Scottish, English, Irish, Italian, South African, Canadian and Saudi Arabian people .......and even someone form Aberdeen!! Kids have friends from all over, India, Latvia etc.

Pick a name you like it doesn't have to be Scottish or go with your son's name. For what it's worth, I love the name Stella so did my OH, we had boys but couldn't use it anyway as it rhythms with our surname (and he was making jokes about having twins called Stella and Artois!)

I had a friend who, when she was expecting, another friend dreamed that she had a girl and called her Lorna.....so she did :)

[aufaniae]

That's reassuring :)

However, now if DS was Estonian (like my grandfather) I wouldn't think there might be a problem.

There's a lot more anti-English feeling in Scotland (arguably, understandably so!) than towards other nations. This is not about general xenaphobia / racism, it's specifically about anti-Englishness!

DP and MIL for example might well support Latvia or Canada for fun in a football match against another unconnected country. Would they ever support England, even in fun? Never! They unfailingly support whoever is playing against England, as do many Scots, as I'm sure you know. (Didn't Andy Murray get in trouble for saying words to that effect?!)

I'm not saying I'm overly worried about it being a massive issue btw, just talking about it as it's the way the discussion's gone on this thread!

[Wafflenose]

Estelle is a French name, and a good one! Go for it!

[saffronwblue]

An obscure fact that I happen to know is that there is a little princess Estelle in Sweden who will one day be Queen.
Why not go for an Estonian name - Imbi or Pille?

[amck5700]

aufaniae I really wouldn't worry about it, there are so many English familes in Scotland now that your kids would be unlikely to be the only ones in their class- One of my son's friends has a really strong "proper" English accent and he hasn't even noticed much less commented.

What area do you think you will move to? Unless you were moving to a really "rough" area where there were less likely to be English people moving to then you will find it not uncommon - we travel about Scotland a fair bit and everywhere we have been to especially in the rural areas there is a significant English population.

A lot of the "not supporting England" is a bit of a joke nowadays rather than particular fervour - unless that nob-end Salmond stirs things up of course.

[racingheart]

I adore the name Estelle and all its variants: Stella, Seren (really love that one) Essie. Gorgeous.