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Can anyone help me to understand this crochet pattern please.

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Colourworld Wed 20-Jul-11 13:19:24

This is a pattern www.crochet-world.com/newsletters/talkingcrochet/pages/TCNL1309_patt1.html
I like the idea of it because it has a flower inside. I guess the abbreviations are in American, so that is a bit confusing. The pattern does not look that difficult (judging from the picture) but I find it hard to understand the instructions.
My understanding:
1st round: ch 5, join with slip stitch (ss)
2nd round: (they say ch1 and then tr cl). I understand that I have to double treble crochet three times, join by drawing yarn through the 1st loop, ch1; repeat 11 times.

As far as I know double crochet (american single crochet) - only 1 yo.
Double treble crochet (american treble crochet) - yo 3 times

Really like this motif but please someone simplify the instructions for me, in English crochet if possible. Many many thanks!

DragonAlley Wed 20-Jul-11 18:31:42

Heaven knows. But then again I've only been crocheting for a fortnight.

It is lovely though [helpful]

cloudpuff Thu 21-Jul-11 10:08:44

Hope I can help.

Firstly a uk double is a us single crochet has no yarn overs. You insert your hook into stitch and pull a loop through, then wrap yarn over and pull through both through both loops on hook.

A uk Double treble is a us treble and has 2 yarn overs. You wrap your yarn twice round hook and then insert into stitch and pull a loop through, pull your loop through two loops then yarn over again and pull through another two loops until there is only one loop left on hook.

As for the clusters, when you work the stitch you do not complete the last part of the stitch, you need to leave those loops on the hook, when you come to the last step of the last stitch in the cluster, you pull the yarn through all the loops on your hook, this gives the petals its pointy shape. I know that probably sounds more confusing but I hoped it helped.

I will now translate it into English terms and post it in a minute.

cloudpuff Thu 21-Jul-11 10:26:31

OK here it is in English terms. I have put the stitches that I have changed into capitals. Ireally hope this help you as its a really pretty motif. Feel free to PM me and I'll help if I can.

Beginning DOUBLE TREBLE cluster : Ch 3, holding back last lp of each DOUBLE TREBLE on hook, work 2 DOUBLE TREBLE in same place as ch 3, yo, draw through all 3 lps on hook.
DOUBLE TREBLE CLUSTER : Holding back last lp of each DOUBLE TREBLE on hook, work 3 DOUBLE TREBLE in place indicated, yo, draw through all 4 lps on hook.

chain 5 and join to form a ring.

Rnd 1: Ch 1, work 12 DOUBLE CROCHET into ring, join with slip stitch into first DOUBLE CROCHET made. (12 DOUBLE CROCHET)

Rnd 2: Beg DOUBLE TREBLE CLUSTER (see Special Stitches) in same DOUBLE CROCHET as joining, [ch 3, double treble cluster(see Special Stitches) in next DOUBLE CROCHET] 11 times, ch 3, join in top of beg DOUBLE TREBLE CLUSTER, fasten off. (12 DOUBLE TREBLE CLUSTERS)

Rnd 3: Join white in any ch-3 sp, ch 1, (DOUBLE CROCHET, ch 1, HALF TREBLE CROCHET, ch 1, TREBLE CROCHET, ch 1, DOUBLE TREBLE, ch 1) in same sp, (TREBLE CROCHET, ch 1) 4 times in next ch- 3 sp, (tr, ch 1) twice in next ch-3 sp, (TREBLE CROCHET, ch 1) twice in next ch-3 sp, (HALFTREBLECROCHET, ch 1, TREBLECROCHET, ch 1) in next ch-3 sp, (TREBLECROCHET, ch 1, DOUBLE TREBLE, ch 1) in next ch-3 sp, (DOUBLE TREBLE, ch 1, TREBLE, ch 1) in next ch-3 sp, (TREBLECROCHET, ch 1, HALF TREBLE CROCHET, ch 1) in next ch-3 sp, (TREBLE, ch 1) twice in next ch-3 sp, (DOUBLE TREBLE, ch 1) twice in next ch-3 sp, (TRIPLE TREBLE CROCHET, ch 1) 4 times in next ch-3 sp, (DOUBLE TREBLE, ch 1, TREBLE, ch 1, HALF TREBLE, ch 1, sc, ch 1) in last ch-3 sp, join in beg DOUBLE CROCHET.

Rnd 4: Sl st over next ch 1, HALF TREBLE and ch 1, DOUBLE CROCHET in each rem st and ch-1 sp to the ch-1 sp between the 2 DOUBLE TREBLES at bottom point, work (TREBLE, ch 1, TREBLE) in ch-1 sp at point, DOUBLE CROCHET in each rem st and ch-1 sp, ending with sl st over last HALF TREBLE, ch 1 and DOUBLE CROCHET, join, fasten off.

Rnd 5: Join pink with a DOUBLE CROCHET in the ch-1 sp between the beginning and ending DOUBLE CROCHETS of rnd 3 at top center of heart, ch 3, DOUBLE CROCHET in sl st worked over the first HALF TREBLE CROCHET of rnd 3, [ch 3, sk next st, DOUBLE CROCHET in next st] around, at bottom point working DOUBLE CROCHET in the first TREBLE CROCHET, ch 3, DOUBLE CROCHET in next TREBLE CROCHET, end with ch 3, join in beg DOUBLE CROCHET, fasten off.

Colourworld Thu 21-Jul-11 10:31:29

DragonAlley, I enjoy crocheting very much but sometimes I find it hard to understand the instructions because I have been doing it for a few months only.
Cloudpuff, many thanks for your kind help.
I am a bit confused with this "Rnd 1: Ch 1, work 12 sc in ring, join in beg sc.". I do not understand why do I need to start with Ch1 and then add 12 sc into the ring. Usually, when I start crocheting a flower I do not add extra ch.

equivalent stitch names:
English American
double crochet single crochet
treble crochet double crochet
3 double treble cluster Treble crochet cluster (tr cl)

As I understand the above given by me link (op) comes from American source. It means that if they say to use single crochet (sc) I have to do double crochet (dc) because they are equal. Am I correct?

I am so sorry for all the trouble blush and thank you!

Colourworld Thu 21-Jul-11 10:34:09

Cloudpuff, thank you so much!!! I am going to look at it today. May be not now because my kid is not well but I will come back to this post later. Many thanks!

purplepidjincantatem Thu 21-Jul-11 10:38:44

Round 1: Chain 1 stitch, work 12 double crochet in ring, join in beginning double crochet

Some patterns ch 1 to get you away from the previous row. I often do it just so it's easier to tell where the row started blush

Colourworld Thu 21-Jul-11 10:57:57

Thank you cloudpuff and purplepidjincantatem, your clarifications are very helpful. I am going to ask my DH to print them out so I could work on the sofa.

Colourworld Thu 21-Jul-11 11:12:23

I have just finished double crochet circle and the double treble cluster flower! It was so easy thanking to you! Will try the rest later.

cloudpuff Thu 21-Jul-11 11:45:30

Glad that you managed and hope it comes out good for you. I learnt myself to crochet in Feb and often spent ages figuring stitches out, its so simple once you know what you are doing.

Do you plan to use the heart flower for a particular project?

Colourworld Thu 21-Jul-11 12:00:24

Thank you cloudpuff. I also started crocheting in February! but I have not done much because of other things. I always wanted to learn how to crochet a heart and thought this one has a really interesting motif. Have not got a project really involving a heart. I am crocheting a pillow case using African flower hexagons. It does not take long to crochet one hexagon but then there are always destructions. I hope to finish it soon.
What about you? What are you crocheting?

SoupDragon Thu 21-Jul-11 12:05:49

I shall bookmark those translated instructions for future reference smile Although it has to be said the phrase "double treble cluster" makes my head explode!

I still have a crochet apple key ring to finish for a teacher gift first. I got a smudge of paint on one so will have to keeo that for myself [drat] wink

cloudpuff Thu 21-Jul-11 12:33:05

At the moment I'm making all the Super Mario toys for my DD so far I have done Luigi and Mario. Are you on Ravelry?

The African Flower hexagons are something I plan to try too, I fancy making a blanket out of them but I'll probably get fed up and make a cushion cover too.

Soup, why dont you try putting your apple through the washing machine? you never know it may wash out. I am also going to make a keyring for a teacher, hopefully I'll get one done this evening. I did want to make one for the classroom assistants too but I seriously doubt I'll have the time. I'm off to Salou on Tuesday and have so much to do.

Colourworld Thu 21-Jul-11 12:42:36

Your key rings are lovely SoupDragon! I do not think I would have the patience to do something similar.

I think I am confusing double crochet with another stitch.
I always thought (I learned mine way of double-crochet from crocheting African flower on one website) that double crochet is: chain 2 or three, yo, insert hook into the next loop of the chain, pull the yarn through, yo and pull through the two loops on the hook, yo and pull through the remaining two loops. That is what I did and it looks wrong.
I think the picture shows double crochet which is shown on this link http://www.learn2knit.co.uk/crochet/basic-stitches.php Fig 89.

SoupDragon Thu 21-Jul-11 12:51:14

By saying "oh, it has a smudge of paint on it" Iget to keep it for myself with no guilt whatsoever grin I think it's actually only pastel crayon from one of DDs Works of Art hmm

I would imagine they'd take less than half an hour each to make. I took longer because I had to learn the hwole increasing/decreasing thing and was mentally translating from American. I think it's a very forgiving pattern though - if I got it wrong it doesn't show and I know I did the leaves slightly wrong.

I just need to attach gift tags, get DS2 and DD to write on the tag and I'm done.

Now, more hearts, more blanket or google for something random...?

purplepidjincantatem Thu 21-Jul-11 13:39:01

My tiny teddies take about half an hour, although I first learned to crochet aged 6 or 7 over two decades ago so I'm relatively quick!

I'm currently working on procrastinating the edging of the final MumsNet blanket (for which raffle tickets will be available sometime in September so no rush!), and getting frustrated with the amount of time it takes to make a toddler-sized jumper... I think I'll turn that one into a pattern and make them out of fleece in future!

I also crochet for www.lisasstars.org.uk if anyone wants quick and easy projects wink

cloudpuff Thu 21-Jul-11 13:54:31

Colour - the stitch you have just described is a uk treble/us double. Its sounds as though you have worked a US double

For a uk double crochet (which is a us single) you need to put your hook where the patterns states, yarn over and pull through loop, now you should have two loops on your hook, wrap the yarn over and pull though both loops to complete the stitch.

The uk/us stitch names can be very confusing.

SoupDragon Thu 21-Jul-11 20:23:07

LOLOL... I have just made possibly the ugliest, most mishapen bear in the world grin

purplepidjincantatem Thu 21-Jul-11 23:25:46

Pics please!!!

It might be my pattern, I'm a freestyler so not that great at remembering what I've done. My teddies all turn out different!

SoupDragon Fri 22-Jul-11 06:59:16

he does now have a face which has improved things slightly.

I think "freestyle" covers what I did... I had the sense not to put the popcorn snout under his ear which it was where it would have been if id followed the pattern... Counting stitches clearly isn't my strong point! One arm is smaller than the other too and the rainbow wool hadn't helped (it was my only ball of scrap wool)

purplepidjincantatem Fri 22-Jul-11 10:00:12

He's very cool! Counting's not my strong point either, so wiggling may be necessary wink

Colourworld Fri 22-Jul-11 10:19:29

Cloudpuff, thank you for clarifying the description of my pattern. English/American are indeed confusing. Why cannot we use the same crochet language?
I have never heard of Super Mario. Where did you get the patterns from? The pictures do not look easy to crochet.
I have an account with Ravelry but I am not using it.
I think I would manage a small blanket from African Flower hexagons but I do not think it is going to be comfy because you have to put all those hexagons together, lots of sewing and edges.

SoupDragon, the teddy is cute but I would loose the count of stitches with rainbow wool. I think if you add black eyes, nose and mouth the bear will look more distinguished.

Colourworld Fri 22-Jul-11 10:21:23

I did not crochet the heart last night. DS was not feeling well (viral cold). He is better today so I might give a go to crocheting.

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