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Antenatal/postnatal depression

To all those feeling hopeless...it does get better, I promise.

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Feversandmirrors · 05/12/2014 21:43

I made numerous posts on this board back when DS was just born and it was a lifesaver. An actual literal lifesaver. Without the support and guidance from lovely MNers, I would never have been brave enough to get the help I so sorely needed. Hence, this post-hopefully if you're deep in the PND fog you'll come across it and it will help.

A bit of background. Had DS in January this year and birth, while remarkably quick, was fine. He was our 'miracle' baby-we'd long been told children weren't possible so we felt so lucky. But cautious. Very, very cautious. Pregnancy simply did not agree with me-sever SPD made any movement agony. I barely slept due to my hip pain and I simply longed for it to be over.

Once DS was born, I felt nothing, absolutely nothing, towards him. Not in a "oh, here's a baby, what do I do?' Naivety, but an over-arching 'right, so you're mine. You don't feel like mine' way, if that makes sense. I figured I was a little overwhelmed by the speedy nature of the birth and just needed to regroup at home.

DS was a severe reflux baby and didn't sleep more than 45m at a go. I was on edge the entire time; even when my parents came round to help and let me and DH sleep, I couldn't switch off. I couldn't eat, I couldn't sleep, I could do nothing but sob and wish myself anywhere but there.

I couldn't do it. I know it sounds weird but I just couldn't. I'm highly accomplished in my field; I am a total perfectionist when it comes to work and tend not to deal with failure well and I was absolutely shit scared of this 6lb behemoth who took over every room he was present in with his screaming and wailing and exhaustion. I knew I had to look after him-it's in the unwritten contract! after all-and I knew how to do it, but I just couldn't.

I didn't want to be alone with him. Couldn't be alone with him. Not because I would do anything stupid, but because I was so consumed by an overwhelming anxiety that I constantly felt as if I was drowning in it. I had never felt that way before about anything.

The people in my life were understandable frightened for me. This shaking, sobbing mess was as far from the "real" me as humanly possible. My HV and nurses visited every day, hoping to see some shard of improvement:a willingness to get changed, eating something, cuddling the baby. Nothing. I did what I had to do for DS and that, itself was exhausting. Changing his nappy took a good 30m of psych up time. The thought of Feeding him (he has never been a good feeder) reduced me to tears as, try as I might, I could not get him to take his bottle.

Eventually, my DH made me call the GP to prescribe sleeping pills to try and even me out. He was under the impression that 'a good night's sleep will sort you out'

When we drove back from the GPs surgery and were sitting in the car on our driveway, I could see my mum pacing up and down in front of the window trying to soothe my screaming DS.

I refused to get out of the car.

I was a grown woman and I genuinely couldn't muster the courage to leave the car and go into my own home. I don't know how long it took, but it took him, two parents and a boatload of courage to open the door. This was the turning point where I think everyone in my life realised this wasn't simply the baby blues.

My HV and nurses had got worried to the point of having me assessed by mental health and, given that I sobbed the entire way through the assessment, I think it was quickly accepted that additional support was needed. I was prescribed diazepam, sertraline and needed visits every day from a member of the mental health team and monthly assessments from a clinical psychologist. There was talk of putting me in a secure mother and baby unit if I didn't show improvement within a set time frame.

Now I wasn't just upset, but fearful. In my fuzzy head, they were saying that I was a danger to myself and DS. I never had suicidal or homicidal thoughts, I just didn't want to be there. I wanted my life back-the one that didn't involve frantically spending hours trying to work out what this little screaming ball of fury wanted. I wanted to sleep and not wake up-not in a forever sense, but just get away from the acidic nature of my reality.

So I did everything they said. I had visits every day, reducing to twice a week, then every two weeks, then monthly, then nothing. I had a trained baby nurse come out to show me how to parent. When they quickly worked out that this wasn't a problem, these became support visits where we both tried, and failed, to get DS to sleep.

I saw the clinical registrar and talked. Lots and lots of talking. There was no depression in my family, no traumatic birth, no deeply hidden secrets tucked in a tiny corner of my mind. If anything, I was too prepared. Too used to being perfect and organised that the shock of having this tiny creature siphon every ounce of energy from me that I sort of imploded. Not his fault, I hasten to add.

Above all, it was chemical. My brain was simply not manufacturing what my body needed to get through the day. This wasn't anyone's fault-it was just one of those things.

After 8 months of intervention, I was finally discharged to my GP, with strict instructions to call the MH team if I find myself slipping. I'm still on sertraline but can now sleep, eat and, I'm pleased to say, I'm starting to bond with my DS.

He's ten months now and a total nutcase. It's been one issue after the other with his health but, as he's got older (and is sleeping more) I've found myself enjoying spending time with him. His personality is starting to shine though (stubborn and constantly on the go) and, since his reflux has settled, he's so much happier. We still have those nightmare days where I pray for bedtime to hurry up and arrive but, on the whole, I really like him now. I'm back at work and I find myself missing him during the day. I love picking him up from nursery as the smile on his face when he sees me absolutely makes my day.

I remember extraordinarily little about the first 3 months of DS's life and I will forever feel guilty for that, but maybe it's actually a good thing. I don't need to remember how hopeless and alone and useless I felt. Memories of those emotions linger but they've faded to the point where I no longer really see them as a threat to my future relationship with DS. They are separate from one another and you need to remember this. Those feelings, while all consuming at the time, don't need to affect your long term relationship with your baby. They are entirely separate entities and once you're out of the fog, the PND version of "you" has absolutely no bearing or influence on the 'real' you.

it does get better. I know it seems like it won't and that it will always be shit, and that you'll always feel like shit but I promise that you won't. Take as much help that is offered. If none is offered, go to your GP and refuse to leave until you are taken seriously. If you don't feel strong enough to do this, get someone to go with you and fight on your behalf. There is no shame in asking for, or accepting, help. It does not mean you are a bad mum, or a useless mum or a mum that cannot cope. It just means you need a little extra help to guide you towards where everyone else is. Don't lose sight of the fact that it is chemical, not emotional. It can be fixed. Just see it through.

Sorry for the novel. If you made it this far, I hope it helped, even in just a small way.

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splendide · 06/12/2014 14:10

Oh god I feel like this! This feels how I feel. I hope so much I'll feel better one day but it feels impossible. But I'll try to believe you thanks.

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RosieProbert · 07/12/2014 11:15

Thank you for that. I'm really struggling today.

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Mumblepot26 · 11/12/2014 20:34

Fevers this is an amazingly well articulated piece. Thank you for writing and sharing. So glad too are out of the fog now

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Tammypaige1 · 13/12/2014 10:06

I've never felt so low in my life I don't know what to do or where to turn I was on sertraline for over a year and now I just feel like in back to square one my doctor has changed my tablets and now on fluoxetine but I just can't see this getting any better. My family have been great and done all they can buy I feel so alone and don't know how much more of this I can take. I just need a friend seeing as I've pushed every single one of mine away and now I seem to be doing the same to my partner I hate myself actually hate myself everyone would be better off without me but I know I couldn't go through with it I couldn't leave my kids they are my life and the way I'm going they're the only ones that I'm a going to have around me. I never thought life could be so hard and fucked up

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Feversandmirrors · 15/12/2014 21:14

Tammy-you have NOT pushed everyone away. People are very intuitive and tend to take a step back when they feel that they can't offer the support that is needed.
You must go back to your GP and discuss both your medication (you have maybe dropped down dosage either too quickly or too soon-I did this and it knocked me for about two weeks before I put it back up myself)
I was told by the clinical psychologist that once you feel 'normal'you need to stay on the AD for a further 6 months from that point. I suspect your dosage needs increased.
I know how impossible forging friendships is with other mums when you feel so hopeless; the thought of attending baby groups used to have me in tears as I didn't want people judging my screaming DS, my unkempt appearance, my tears. In my head, everyone found parenting so easy and I was the exception. I didn't need to have my nose rubbed in it.
Truthfully, my sanity came from the mental health team baby nurse who visited three times a week in the early dark days. She was wonderful and it was nice to have someone to talk to who could see how difficult and challenging DS was.
I would ask your GP if this service is available in your area. It's not a social services referral-no one will judge or monitor you unjustly-it's simply having support in a controlled and ordered fashion. Had it not been for her visits, the only people I would have spoken to/sobbed on in the first 8 weeks would have been my mum and DH.
You sound like you really need support-please, please, please go to your GP and show them your post. There are services out there to help you but you need to take the first step. If you can't face going to the GP, ask for a house visit.
You will be fine. You just have to believe that it is possible.
If it's any help, I will quite openly admit that I don't find being a mum rewarding. I love the bones of DS but this mum role is definitely not one I was born to play. It's taken a very long time to realise that there's nothing wrong with this; it doesn't make you less of a parent or any less loving, it just means you have
To work harder as it's not something that comes naturally,
Good luck

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WanderingTrolley1 · 02/01/2015 00:26

Thank you for your post, Fever.

I am depressed and have been on Sertraline for 3.5 weeks. I'm still waiting for it to kick in as I'm still incredibly anxious and overwhelmed with having to look after my 3 children - 2 under 2.

Sometimes, I'm so tormented, I feel like throwing myself under a bus.

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Feversandmirrors · 04/01/2015 19:38

Hang in there, wandering. The mental health team nurse told me that it can take up to 8 weeks for the ADs to kick in. I know it's hard, but you simply have to wait it out.
I can't imagine having 2 under 2; given my experience with DS I know I will never ever have another baby.
Have you got much support from family? You need to ask for help; people generally want to help but don't offer as they don't want to seem overbearing. A few hours off from being mum will definitely help.
Go back to drs and ask for something to help your anxiety in the short term; I took diazepam until I felt the ADs taking effect. It may be an option?
Stay strong and ask for help-it will get better.

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WanderingTrolley1 · 04/01/2015 20:45

Thanks for your response, Fever.

My GP won't prescribe Diazepam. She told me it's addictive and once you stop, you're back to square one.

She told me to up the dose to 100mg, but I'm terrified to. I'm still taking the 50mg dose and will give it a little longer, I think.

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Feversandmirrors · 04/01/2015 22:20

50mg is a very small dose. I started on 150mg and was told by the mental health registrar that that was even a very small dose; most people with PND start between 150mg-250mg a day. I started at 150mg and was told I could move up at my own discretion.
Your GP is right to an extent regarding the diazepam but is argue that if your anxiety is stopping you from functioning normally (as it was for me) a short term dose (I was prescribed enough for three weeks) is a sensible course. I never once felt addicted but they helped me sleep when I had gone four days of 1-3 hours a day due to me anxiety. If you felt yourself getting dependent then you could cut down gradually by taking 1/2 tablet at a time rather than the full. I did this towards the end of my course just to ensure that I didn't feel any side effects.
I can't understand why your dr will not prescribe a short course to cover the 3 or so weeks before the setraline kicks in. I never once felt the 'high' that apparently comes with it, all it did was level my anxiety so I could function normally.
Without trying to make you query everything, I'd make an appoinent with another GP to explain how you're feeling. I know it's hard but you have to be assertive (or take someone with you who is); tell them that you're going to u your dosage to whatever you feel necessary (150 was fine for me) and that you'd appreciate a short course of diazepam to ease your anxiety while waiting for the ADs to work.
Please don't accept that you just have to exist like this. There is a chemical imbalance that needs adjusted. Medication is a short term solution which allows you to see the long term.
Good luck

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Apathyisthenewblah · 31/03/2015 17:33

I felt like that with my daughter. The trouble is she is now 19mo and I am still having a rough time. I live for the days she is in nursery and dread spending time with her in case she cries. I am a ball of anxiety, when she sleeps I lie there in fear that she will wake again and cry.

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Kangaroo2 · 07/04/2015 20:28

Apathyisthenewblah, are you getting support? PND can still happen for a long time after your LO is born, and it sounds like you are having a really awful time. I am still really struggling with my 22 month old, but I'm seeing a counsellor who specialises in PND and she is really helpful. Wishing you all the best x

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Kangaroo2 · 07/04/2015 20:35

Thanks Fever as well

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Apathyisthenewblah · 11/04/2015 15:14

Kangaroo, thanks. I went back to Dr and have seen the mental health team again. That combined with some lifestyle changes has helped at lot.
Hope you are doing ok? x

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sallyaberdeen1981 · 12/04/2015 13:23

This is such a great thread. I read this article in a magazine and I thought it would help many of us. Certainly helped me. standardissuemagazine.com/health/postnatal-depression-felt-like-limping-permanent-twilight/

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Timetofight123 · 05/05/2015 11:14

Hello I was wondering if anyone could offer me some advice I am 16 weeks pregnant and I have been having really strong suicidal thoughts due to my anxiety and depression and insomnia I have admitted myself into hospital so that I can get the best possible help to fight this because the last thing I want is for social services to take my baby . At the time when I was at my lowest I didn't feel any connection to the baby which sounds awful I know and I thought the baby would be better off without me .. I didn't harm myself because o knew that would harm my baby so Hello I was wondering if anyone could offer me some advice I am 16 weeks pregnant and I have been having really strong suicidal thoughts due to my anxiety and depression and insomnia I have admitted myself into hospital so that I can get the best possible help to fight this because the last thing I want is for social services to take my baby . At the time when I was at my lowest I didn't feel any connection to the baby which sounds awful I know and I thought the baby would be better off without me .. I didn't harm myself because o knew that would harm my baby so I have seeked help .. My doctor has said because I was suicidal they have to inform social services as a procedure I am so scared that they will take my baby off me
Thank you x

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