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Due in July 2013 - newborns to the left of me, big bumps to the right, here I am stuck in the middle with you babe!

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SlouchingPanda Fri 12-Jul-13 19:01:27

Hello shiny new thread!

TotallyEggFlipped Mon 05-Aug-13 15:32:32

Time for the post-natal thread

TotallyEggFlipped Mon 05-Aug-13 15:27:54

Yay for the arrival of babywombat! Congratulations!

dinkystinky Mon 05-Aug-13 13:12:36

Congrats Wombat - wonderful news! Welcome to the world miniWombat! Hope all going well with you both. Is that now all of our regular posters with babies? If so, time to shift to the postnatal hall of fame?

Thanks to BB, Cheek and the other lovely ladies sending sympathy in my direction - honestly, life isn't too bad. I'm just a bit sleep deprived and know this stage will eventually pass. Took j to the cranial osteo today and as I suspected she said his whole digestive system seems really tight and in shock, which explains why his sleep is all over the shop and hes being a grumpalump. Mast join Princess llama on the wheat and dairy free plan (bye bye fro-yo!) to see if that helps his digestion settle down.

Phie and others with engorged boobs try reverse flow compression (on the drjacknewman site) which will soften your areola to let them latch on.

Ama - sounds like a powerful let down. Try leaning back biological nurturing position which means your flow is working against gravity so should slow down. J (and his big brothers) have their own way of dealing with it - they get the flow going then bob off the boob to let the first gush out - means anything and anyone in the vicinity might get soaked!

AmaDablam Mon 05-Aug-13 10:39:56

Hello all

Sorry for lack of personals but feeling a little zombiefied today. Congratulations to those who have had their babies (there can't be many left now!) in the last couple of days and hugs for those who are struggling for whatever reason.

Interesting to read other people's BF experiences and recognising lots of our own little teething (ha hopefully not literally yet!) problems there. I too seem to have the common problem of massive engorged boobs leading to poor latch but have found just expressing a little bit by hand before a feed really helps this and as someone said, you can use this to drip a little bit onto the baby's lips, either to soothe them if they're getting impatient or wake them up a bit if they're too sleepy to properly feed.

One issue which I've had is that now my milk's come in and there's so much more of it than the colostrum, it's almost as E gets a bit of a shock sometimes, and it makes her cough and splutter after a few minutes on the boob. She then unlatches and usually can't really be bothered to go back on, which has led to some very short feeds. Everything else is indicating that she is getting enough, but I do hope so. Will mention it to the MW when she does her 5 day visit later but just wondered if anyone else had this and whether it will pass as she gets used to the quicker flow.

Beginningofthejourney Mon 05-Aug-13 09:54:30

Oh congratulations wombat x

Beginningofthejourney Mon 05-Aug-13 09:53:44

phie and others with latching problems I second what mightbe said about wind, I find Theo needs to suck on a dummy sometimes while being held up on my shoulder, he's not bothered about the dummy most of the time but it does seem to help on occasion, I try it if he's head butting my boob rather that latching straight on.
Need to get off mn and get showered or I'll never get dressed!

waitingforwombat Mon 05-Aug-13 09:01:27

Quick update to let you know my daughter was born. yesterday at 1645 weighing 7lbs 8oz. Will update more later!!

BB01 Mon 05-Aug-13 08:55:12

Now realise Dinky was talking about an older DC! Excuse sleep deprived brain! The sentiment remains the same though!

BB01 Mon 05-Aug-13 08:48:03

'Doesn't enjoy' that should read!

BB01 Mon 05-Aug-13 08:46:59

Another one who's slipped behind!!

Many congrats to the new arrivals and thanks to all those who've shared birth stories. Really enjoy reading them!

Aw Dinky sorry to hear you feel like that but it'll pass I'm sure as the dreaded lurgy disappears and things calm down a bit. It's obvious from your posts that you are a wonderful mother. If it's any consultation I swear my little one doesn't know me from Adam yet. She tries to root for nipples on anyone from my dad to DH's mates blush!

Think someone else mentioned squirming and coming off Nipple. Still getting same issue here. Thought it was oversupply or fast flow but other times wonder if it's actually frustration at slow let down or lack of milk. Can't win!

Otherwise going well here and just love DD more every day! Still just keep staring at her and grinning like an idiot most the day. Trying to make effort to leave the house every day and talk to another adult though to keep my sanity! Not easy when just popping out for a walk still seems a military operation. Also finding driving difficult as I'm quite a nervous driver anyway and just don't particularly enjoy it and now have to contend with a baby who does always enjoy being in carseat (cue continuous crying) , worries over sauna-like temperature of car and general anxiety worsened by now being responsible for two lives!!

MightBeMad Mon 05-Aug-13 02:49:13

Phie. Could it be wind? Da has had a couple of days where all he has seemed to want to do is feed, rooting frantically despite having only recently fed and popping on and off. Only worked out yesterday that the culprit is wind - he's not hungry he's just desperate to suck to get some pain relief (and then finding it doesn't always work). Our solution has been that if he's had both boobs and is still frantically rooting to assume wind and try to wind him, rub his tummy, cycle his legs etc until he calms down.

Abzs Mon 05-Aug-13 02:31:36

Persevere I think Phie. J has phases of seeming to forget how to latch, or seeming too lazy to try properly, but is perfect at other times. Latching spot on tonight, but he's just done a massive sick and poo to remind me to pay attention to him not mn.

What are your dhs doing up here? Is there some sort of meet up they're not telling us about? Mine has phoned twice a day since he finally got a flight on Friday. Every time J has been yelling about something... at least dh isn't getting a false impression of the temporary single parenthood.

PhieEl06 Mon 05-Aug-13 01:41:49

Hmm last week M had a perfect latch, first time pretty much every time she latched lovely & knew what to do but the last few days she's become frantic, I'm still using her early feeding cues but she takes a good few attempts to latch often causing me some pain. Even if she latches well first time she'll have 3 or 4 sucks before pulling away for another attempt thus causing milk to start dripping everywhere, from what I can tell nothing has changed, positioning is still the same & I'm not letting her get to crying before feeding. I feel a little bit at a loss of what to do.

MightBeMad Sun 04-Aug-13 23:27:50

Evening all. Sorry for limited personals but I'm reading on phone during a rather stop-start feed and I've forgotten who said what!

Congrats silver on a seriously swift arrival! Hope you have adequate pain relief to be comfy. I was given paracetamol, diclofenac and codeine to cycle every few hours.

Hello phie, you sound like you're doing well.

Whoever asked about engorgement and latching: yes it is a problem for littlies. When they latch they draw breast tissue into their mouth (not just nipple). If the breast is so full that they can't draw it in they won't get a successful latch (either they'll fail completely or end up hanging on to just the nipple which will make you sore). As someone else said, the solution is to express a little first to slightly soften the breast. You don't need a pump to do this, you an express by hand (I hold baby underneath and express into his mouth - it goes everywhere but he gets some and it saves the hassle of pumping, plus it keeps him calm for the minute or two it takes to be ready to latch him on). Hope that helps!

cheekbyjowl Sun 04-Aug-13 22:50:41

and congratulations silver. I haven't heard that name before but it's really lovely.

hope baby wombat is no longer keeping her mother waiting

right this little vegemite has finally fallen asleep...see you all in 3hrs wink sleep well everyone xx

cheekbyjowl Sun 04-Aug-13 22:47:08

hi. I agree phie it's hard to keep up I read the posts but struggling to type one handed!. mrsd yes, I find if my boobs are too full then they can't latch but sometimes the milk that drips causes a slippery nipple (but not the sambuca type) so I pump a little out before feeding. also helping to keep mastitis from returning.
I'm like united dairy sad

re cabin fever: I find it helps to give dh J for 20min when I do something normal like a supermarket run just to get out of the house, otherwise you can feel like a walking boob.

dinky don't let the nanny thing get you down. you sound like you're doing wonderfully for your boys. hope J sleeps better tonight.

re: formula feeding sorry can't remember who said it but thought that whoever said the most important thing was that our children were fed and cherished sounds spot on. smile

SlouchingPanda Sun 04-Aug-13 21:49:28

My DH is also off to Scotland next week with work... what are they all doing up there!? Highly suspicious if you ask me wink...

dinkystinky Sun 04-Aug-13 20:32:29

Granny - hugs to you too. First few days of ebf are tough and A is having to relearn how to latch. She will get there though. She'll be feeding loads to get her latch right - if you can baby moon with her for a couple of days, use your special gauze lansinoh and air those nipples lots it should hopefully pass soon. Hope dh is home soon. My dh is off to Scotland tomorrow for work for a couple of days - must be the season for it.

dinkystinky Sun 04-Aug-13 20:11:19

Congrats Silver - lovely name and sounds like a v swift birth. Slouching had great advice on tears - I also recommend arnica and vit e supplements to speed healing.

Sunday - big hugs. Sounds like things are bring tough right now but will settle down. Get not so dh to look after baby and spend some extra time with Dd if poss - she's probably acting up due to feeling unsettled.

TotallyEggFlipped Sun 04-Aug-13 19:13:08

MightBe - I hope DD has improved today and you & DS are lurgy-free.

dinky - keeping my fingers crossed that J learns to sleep at night soon.

Granny - I like survival gauze. It seems appropriate smile

Mrsd - don't feel guilt about enjoying the peace and a chance for a (relative!) break. It's important for you & L to get some peace!

Congratulations, Silver! I hope the tear heals quickly. I think Slouching has covered everything.

Phie - congratulations on surviving your first poonami! You have to laugh really.

Sorry things aren't going well with 'D'H, Sunday. I hope he improves. Maybe he should have a go on the naughty step?

SundaySunshine Sun 04-Aug-13 16:37:58

Congratulations Silver smile enjoy your new born snuggles.

Hugs to everyone having a hard time at the moment, gosh it's hard work isn't it? I'm so grateful that L is such a chilled out babe and is really v easy now we have figured out a routine (cluster feeds for three hours in morning and again in early evening then every three hours rest of the time) I'm still exhausted though so lots of sympathy to Dinky and others with nocturnal babies. I having a hard time with my husband however, we are arguing constantly and I'm in tears every five minutes. DD is finding it all v hard to cope with which is making me feel even worse. Her behaviour has plummeted and I'm having to reprimand her all the time which is also making things worse. I'm trying to stay calm and just using time out/ naughty chair and explaining things to her but I'm finding it really draining. UH (useless husband) isn't helping out at all, with anything, I feel like a struggling single mum sad

Sorry for the winge, just need to get it off my chest because I feel like I'm heading for a meltdown.

PhieEl06 Sun 04-Aug-13 16:03:37

Oh ladies I never anticipated how difficult it would be to keep up with the thread with a newborn, I am so sorry for neglecting you all! M is doing fabulously & today we dealt with our first explosive poonami, all up her back & out the sides of her nappy, also a leaky wee too, it was horrendous, had to get OH to help contain the situation although he did just stand over us laughing.

Sending hugs, cake & plenty of tea to those with feeding/sleep/general baby or self issues, looking after a baby is often easier said than done.

I promise I will keep up now!

SlouchingPanda Sun 04-Aug-13 15:38:10

Yaaaaay! Congratulations Silver! Well done you. Are we still waiting for WaitingForWombat grin? Or is that it for the regular posters now?

Re stitches care, drink loads of water to help keep your wee dilute and your stools soft. Ideally shower the area after going to the toilet (but frankly not easy with a newborn) and leave to air dry (again, not easy when coping with post-birth bleeding). Regular pain relief for at least a week (paracetamol and ibuprofen were what I had). Sit on nice soft cushions; if very sore you can buy valley cushions/haemorrhoid cushions to sit on <glamorous>. I bought a hot/cold pad from Boots which went in the fridge and provided good relief. Also lavender oil in a shallow bath was good... am sure others have different tips too. And most importantly - once you can start to feel things down there and it's not too sore pelvic floor exercises!

Sorry I haven't posted much. Junior Panda is an easy baby (I think - not much to compare to!) but everything still takes a million years, I'm still crazy hormonal with much weeping and I'm still wondering if we've done the right thing too late now !

Icing please do not beat yourself up about having needed a section. Some babies just aren't destined to come out vaginally, and it's not "your fault" at all. Likewise re. feeding - if your baby is fed and cherished you are doing brilliantly.

Dinky an hourly clockwork baby sounds utterly draining. Thinking of you, and everyone else finding things tricky at times so everyone, then!

IcingTheCake Sun 04-Aug-13 14:01:46

8lb 15.8oz if i worked it out right silver A was 4kg exactly and 8lb 13oz so worked it from that smile

Thank you everyone for your support, does anyone have any advice for when stopping bf so i dont get sore boobs? I've been expressin just until they're not solid today, dont know if thats the right way to do it?

mrsd enjoy time to relax, sometimes its all you need smile

Silver15 Sun 04-Aug-13 13:42:23

Hello all,

Just a quick update. Will catch up later.

Baby Jotham was born this morning at 6:46. He weighed 4.08kgs (someone please help me convert it to ibs). It all happened so quick. Onset of labour was at 4:15am. Was scared of pushing otherwise baby would have arrived sooner. Used gas and air. Got a tear so I will need some advice from you regarding care of stitches as its the first time I have had a tear.

Thanks all for the best wishes.

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