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The Short Cervix Club

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Pizdets Mon 10-Jun-13 19:25:31

Given the high number of threads started in 'pregnancy' on short/incompetent cervixes of late, I thought I'd have a crack at starting a club which we can join to share how we're getting on and pool the information we've been given which hopefully can also reassure or inform other ladies coming on here and worried about the state of their cervixes.

I'll kick off with a bit about my own story:

I'm currently 24+4, due 26th September. I had a scan at the prem clinic at Queen Charlotte's in London who measured my cervix as 2.3/2.4cm and advised a stitch (they do this for anyone who measures under 2.5cm). I had the stitch put in at 15 weeks with a spinal block and so far so good - I'm walking the dog, doing pregnancy yoga, still fairly active and no problems or twinges at all (so far!).

Please feel free to share your experiences, ask questions or update, it's great to hear from other people going through the same worry and so reassuring to know if things are going well!

Piz

JoJon1976 Tue 01-Aug-17 11:02:42

Hi ladies, I'm sure most of you are well on your way through your pregnancies and I hope all is going well. I am currently awaiting discharge after a macdonald stitch for my third pregnancy and am currently 15 weeks pregnant (procedure went well) my first pregnancy, son born 24 weeks, second macdonald stitch put in at 13 weeks and delivered at 42 weeks! And now on my third. I was born at 27 weeks (40 years agoshock) and my mother had stitches in bother her next two pregnancies ( went into early labour with both at 6 month but stitch held) just wondered if anyone has had or come across any hereditary links to shortening cervix or are we just unlucky? ( I can find no studies of this)

April1984 Fri 23-Jun-17 04:49:52

The Short Cervix Club cont.
http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/antenatal_clubs/2938323-the-short-cervix-club-cont

Hope this works Haskell! X

Haskell17 Thu 22-Jun-17 07:42:12

Morning!

Period like pains was normal for me too, They came and went for about 2 weeks, I was just told it was down there healing after the operation. Had mine fitted at 12 and now 28 weeks.

April, do you have the link for the new thread? I couldn't find it x

April1984 Thu 22-Jun-17 06:15:26

Hi again, I had period like pains after both of my stitches and was told it was normal. Keep an eye on it, drink lots of water. If it gets stronger pain or has any kind of pattern to it I would say see your doc to get checked. Good luck with it all! This thread will finish soon (at 1000 posts) but I started a new one if you search for it x

AgainPlease Wed 21-Jun-17 20:27:23

Hi all.

I've just had my cervical stitch put in today at 12+3 (after a late loss at 20 weeks last year). The anaesthetic has worn off and I feel like I've got bad period pain and I'm really scared that something has happened to my baby. I'm not bleeding and the nurses are just saying it's the anaesthetic wearing off and not to forget I've had surgery down there! They don't seem concerned at all and gave me some paracetamol but I wanted to ask you lovely ladies if you were in pain after your stitch?

April1984 Mon 19-Jun-17 11:25:35

Hi Haskell, good thanks, just passed 30 weeks ☺️. How about you? X

Haskell17 Wed 14-Jun-17 19:35:17

Hi :-)

Just wondering how everyone is? How's everyone getting a long? X

April1984 Thu 25-May-17 16:43:59

Great new Casse and Fraggle!

All ok here I think. 27 weeks tomorrow which feels like a bit of progress. Focussing on the end of May, then the end of June then may allow myself to believe having a healthy little one is a possibility. Keep cooking all and come over to the new thread x

Casselliss Thu 25-May-17 13:21:22

Thanks everyone. The dr thinks it's just my flora being out of sorts from the ABs, not BV- I'm not totally confident but he said if I get increased discharge/odour to go back. It's not flowing yet, just inside (my lips are swollen so more closed) & a small amount on underwear. He thought extra ABs would cause more problems unless definitely necessary. Trying to air myself as much as possible. My urine's tested ++ to leukocytes but not nitrites, but I believe this would be the case with bv or other out of balance bacteria.. trying to minimise carbs & have lean protein, veg, yoghurt, fermented foods & tonnes of water. He recommended bed rest. I showed him a pic of the sores & he didn't think they're herpes, likely where I was held open.. I will see how things are tomorrow- my surgeon is 1.5 hours away but I'll call if things don't improve. Thanks again & good luck to everyone! X

FraggleRock77 Thu 25-May-17 12:56:21

Sounds really tough Casse! I hope you manage to get checked out and get some answers. Just an update from me. Scanned today and I've had no further deterioration, in fact my cervix has closed 10mm above stitch! Bedrest may be helping, who knows?!? No steroids again today as my cervix is doing well. Spoke at length about the removal. Planned for 35 weeks and i can have a spinal if needed. Phew! Hope everyone else is hanging in there?x

Casselliss Thu 25-May-17 11:58:32

Thank you both, just waiting for the dr, more after x

April1984 Thu 25-May-17 11:13:30

Thanks Annlee

Cassis, glad you got a stitch in time. I took it very easy post stitch both times (no sex, baths, swimming, exercise). I also took long term leave from work post stitch. That was my choice tho. Been on progesterone both times, there's slot of evidence it helps tho I know some docs have diff views. Not sure if can get it privately but you may be able to as it's got no real side effects.

Re Bv not had those kind of symptoms but the op can mess with your ph balance so can cause trust, maybe Bv too. Deffo get it checked and treated asap. The Shirodkar partic is very invasive and it wouldn't be unusual to have scratches and scrapes. Good luck!

I think this thread auto ends at 1000 posts. Il start a new post called Short Cervix Club continued (if I can work this out) so that this group doesn't disappear! X

Haskell17 Thu 25-May-17 11:09:11

Hi

Unfortunately I can't help on the BV infection but your body will be run down after the operation, I have thrush after the operation, the surgeon did say this is common due to the amount of antibiotics they put in.

I would defiantly go back to the surgeon and ask them to check it out. I found when I went back to the surgeon they were super helpful (and just called the hospital, as the up was so recent, no appointment nessacary) the doctor didn't seem to be to useful.

If you can't go back the hospital, defiantly go the doctors.

Have you had herpes before, if not I would doubt it would be herpes, more than likely where they nipped you with tools during the operation x

Casselliss Thu 25-May-17 10:33:44

I think I have an infection after a stitch 2 days ago- fishy discharge- BV? I'm on penicillin already for strep and don't think BV responds to this.. also I have 2 small sores (vertical lines 1- 1.5 cm long by 3-4 mm wide) just inside my lips, I have been on Dr Google and these could poss be Herpes after the blisters burst although I have felt sore there since the op and they are opposite each other so could I have been clamped there?! I am freaking out, going to the Dr in an hour but has anyone had any experience of a post op infection?

Casselliss Wed 24-May-17 10:16:42

Thank you Haskell, you give me hope! I am doing the same re, taking it easy, I will be working from home and mainly from bed until my first length check at least. I am so paranoid and don't think I can distinguish between normal pregnancy feelings and worrying pressure. Everything crossed you have another 17 problem- free weeks! X

Haskell17 Wed 24-May-17 09:50:48

Hi Casselliss

I had a shirodkar since around the same time as you, when they went in to fit the stitch, they found that my cervix was 1cm and already open. (So good job they fitted)

Again in the UK and no bedrest or medication prescribed. I did have blood thinners for 10 days after (injection into the stomach) but that all.

I have naturally taken things a little light but that's down to my own worry, other than that I have been continuing my normal activities (23 weeks and 4 days)!

:-)

Casselliss Wed 24-May-17 09:09:37

Hi ladies.I had a modified shirodkar (above the cardinal ligaments) yesterday at 13 + 3. It was preventative but my cervix had already shortened to 1.5 cm & is soft. I'm in the U.K. & my consultant doesn't recommend bed rest or progesterone. Anyone with a similar length/softening at this stage & what did you do re, bed rest? And anyone know if I can get progesterone privately? TIA

annlee3817 Tue 23-May-17 21:09:27

Thank you Fraggle and April, I am in England, I was really lucky with the monitoring and care I received. I was seeing the consultant about an entirely different issue and happened to mention that I kept bleeding after intercourse and he saw that I'd had one lot of lletz. First look at cervical length looked ok, the only reason I was called back the following week was because I mentioned some fluid, and he could see pockets of fluid when he looked, then it was the next week that it had shortened. So glad I spoke up, as I thought I was being over cautious.. Good to hear that early prevention has helped you.

April I also wanted to say how sorry I am for your loss flowers

April1984 Tue 23-May-17 09:10:36

Hi Annlee, the difficult with a true incompetent cervix is diagnosing it. My understanding is if you truly have an IC then you have it for life. As Fraggle said there are lots of stories of people having problems in one pregnancy and not others, however (again my understanding) is that these people won't have true IC and their first premature pregnancy would have been for other reasons which may or not reoccur. Hope that makes sense!

I was in two minds after losing my son at 25 weeks when he was 2 weeks and then having a v stressful pregnancy with my second son. However I had a preventative stitch with him, constant monitoring and progesterone. This is a big factor as now you know you're high risk you can ensure that you have the right care going forward. This can make all the difference in the world. Before getting pregnant with our second and third I did a lot of research to find out what options were available so that I could go armed when I saw the doc. I am lucky to be covered by private healthcare as I'm an ex pat. where do you live? The level of care you receive on the NHS can depend on a lot on where you are based. Don't let this stop you having another, there are preventative measures you can put in place x

FraggleRock77 Mon 22-May-17 19:01:27

Hello Annlee. Well done for getting through one pregnancy with a short cervix. Like you comment, no one has a crystal ball and I've read LOTS while on bedrest about women having cervical problems for one pregnancy and not for others. Our bb sitter had no issues and went over due with her first DS and then had two prem babies due to cervical issues! Can you ask to see a specialist?
Our first DS was born at 29 weeks but there was always a query why, although IC was thought to be the issue. My cervix was holding well until 22 weeks then started to shorten. At least now i know what the issue is and was last time. Good luck x

annlee3817 Mon 22-May-17 17:38:04

Sorry I meant 3 x 200mg progesterone pessaries a day. I know there won't be a definitive answer to this

annlee3817 Mon 22-May-17 17:28:01

Hi,
I posted on this a long time ago when I was pregnant as I had problems with my cervix shortening, I had progesterone pessaries from 24 weeks up until 37 weeks, 4 a day. and I was signed off at 32 weeks for the remainder of my pregnancy. As soon as I stopped the pessaries at 37 weeks I did start to dilate but DD hung on until 40+5! not expected at all.

Anyway, to get to the point, my reason for not having another baby is that I found the pregnancy so stressful and was constantly worried about pre term labour. My DH and I decided that we would stick with just the one.

My DH hinted over the weekend that he would possibly like our DD to have a brother or Sister, my DD turns two next week, I just don't know if I could go through that stress again. I also experienced bladder retention at 15 weeks due to my uterus being stuck in my pelvis.

I just wondered if its the case that once a shortening cervix then always a shortening cervix? I had Lletz treatment in 2013 which they think was the reason why, my cervix was also very soft from 24 weeks.

FraggleRock77 Mon 22-May-17 17:27:17

Thanks April x

April1984 Mon 22-May-17 16:51:44

Hi Fraggle, ok here, thanks. Hope everyone else is doing well too.

I have done zero pelvic floors since stitch and si last time. I think a doctor told me not to/various forums strongly advised against it. X

FraggleRock77 Mon 22-May-17 16:06:51

Hello. I hope everyone is well? I'm planning on asking my consultant the same question on Thursday but just wondered? What are people doing about pelvic floor exercises? I used to do them daily before the stitch and now I'm not sure if they will irritate or cause an issue?x

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