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Shagged Out Viroids 7th Thread! From conception to proof that JSing really does work!

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MrsBri Mon 04-Mar-13 21:03:01

Hello and welcome to another shiny fred for Just Shagging graduates!

The last fred was nice and busy so fingers crossed we get lots more members

For those that don't know, a 'viroid' is from the original JSing thread 1, where someone was trying to type ladies (in reference to all the JSing ladies), but their phone decided to call us all viroids instead!

The name stuck and we've been the JSing viroids ever since.

The last thread saw a few births, including one set of twins, and this one promises to be fruitful also with a number of us nearing the end of the 9 month wait!

Our stats thread is here, so if you find us, please add your stats too.

There is also a Just Mumming thread for grads of the grads thread

And if you want to find out what Just Shagging is about or catch up with the undergrads go say hello to the Just Shaggers here, now on the 14th thread.

GaryBuseysTeeth Sat 23-Mar-13 08:29:24

OOoh exciting Wing! Good luck for pant watch.

Frog, good luck with what you decide to do. As mentioned here the antnatal tests/choices pages are good for advice on harmony etc.

Tired, hope your mum is as well as can be & you all have a peaceful weekend.

20wks today!

MrsBri Sat 23-Mar-13 08:34:53

I was going to make some such comment about you going into labour when the water is off on Facebook! Very exciting with the show though :-)

Best take your bag if you go out!

Gary...20 weeks?! Your pregnancy is so much faster than mine!

WingDefence Sat 23-Mar-13 08:50:10

Right, bag sort of packed but I don't have any snacks, dextrose tablets, drinks etc in there which I remember stuffing my hosp bag with last time (and never used any of it as DS was so fast).

It is making me nervous though. I think if I had my day planned l be at home and there was damn water I wouldn't feel nervous but his has all completely thrown me sad

Okay, better finish packing the bag then get out. I think a morning in Starbucks while DH takes DS to the shops is a good idea. Hmm, although walking about would be good too wouldn't it?


tiredteddy Sat 23-Mar-13 08:55:46

You lot are so lovely with all you kind words! Mum had her op and it went well. She may come home today.

Wing, wow getting exciting now. Shame about no water. Enjoy you trip to town it might be your last as a family if three grin

Hooya you clothes sound nice from seraphine. I looked at there stuff but always thought it too pricey!

Frog, thinking of you.

Gary congratulations 20 weeks is such a big milestone! smile

MrsBri Sat 23-Mar-13 09:00:48

You need to wander in shops that are known to give you lots of freebies if your waters break in there! :-)

Must be disconcerting having your plans buggered about, potentially. Let's hope you last til the water is back on.

Tired, I hope your mum gets home soon. Much better to recover there than stay in hospital. thanks

Rockchick1984 Sat 23-Mar-13 09:29:18

Tired so glad her op went well, hope she gets discharged today!

Wing how exciting!! Walk around as much as you can, how many weeks are you now?

Gary halfway there!!! Oooh, living on a prayer smile I was 10 weeks yesterday, morning sickness seems to have stopped over the last few days but upset tummy continues - lovely pregnancy symptom! DH remembers me having the same last time, I must have blocked the memory out grin

frogchops Sat 23-Mar-13 09:37:40

Just to make sure I have the right idea here... From what I've read the harmony test is around £750 right? But I was aware that it can be completed up to 14 weeks. I am passed this now, and I know we can't afford this. Makes me feel even worse that I can't afford to sort out such a big decision. confused
DP has said that he feels strongly that the risk of mc is higher than waiting it out and doing nothing more. Only slightly though....and also questioned how we would feel if things turned out fine via amnio and then I went on to miscarry. I'm so drained about this confused

Rockchick1984 Sat 23-Mar-13 09:46:41

Frog if it makes you feel any better about the harmony test, apparently the NHS won't offer it yet as its accuracy isn't confirmed so don't feel bad about not getting it done (we wouldn't be able to afford it either!). How do you feel about waiting it out, not how DP feels? If you decide not to get the further testing done, as tough as it will be you mustn't spend your entire pregnancy worrying about it, you have got a strong BabyFrog (Tadpole?) growing in there, whatever happens will be right for you!

frogchops Sat 23-Mar-13 09:57:32

Thanks rock....tbh my gut feeling was to wait it out too...I know odds are highly in my favour, plus with thinking about the difference between my risk and low risk being 0.03% (I can't remember who posted that but thankyou!) it seems silly to dwell on that 1.
DP reminded me that I'm often buying 1:4 chance scratch cards and I always lose! .... So I reminded him that I also play the lottery in the hope of being that 1....someone has to win right??! And now I feel bad that I compared my baby to a scratch card! :-/

WingDefence Sat 23-Mar-13 10:26:05

You haven't compared your baby to a scratch card - you've just put te risks/chances involved into a more easily understandable and familiar situation.

I can imagine your mind is all over the place. sad Have you and DP decided what you'd do if you had a baby with Downs? (it was World Downs Syndrome Day this week btw!) If you would be fine, then don't have the test and then you won't be taking any chances of miscarriage.

Argh I just wrote out a long paragraph about risks and chances and my phone deleted it all grr. Basically there are people with v low odds (like me 1:100,000) who will have a child with Downs and people with high odds who don't. And people who have no testing like my friend who still have a child with Downs.

Take care hon.

In other news, we've made it into town actually Preston is technically a city and I'm in SB while DS plays on his iPod and DH has gone shopping. Apparently the water is sort of back on in our area as they've rerouted it so I feel a bit better. I was having the mildest low down period pains last night and with all the pant snot I shouldn't be too surprised. I'm 38 dead on today but by my original dates I am 39+ 2 or 3 and DS came at 39+3 or 4, a day or two after my show... confused

Hooya Sat 23-Mar-13 15:08:11

Wing how exciting! Hope your water gets sorted very soon so you can relax(?) at home!

Frog these are very very difficult decisions and you mustn't feel bad about how you make any of them! I'd second looking on the antenatal tests and choices board, loads of info there to help. And I agree with Rock about the Harmony test.

I'm a risk manager at work so I think about odds and probabilities quite a bit. You shouldn't worry about comparing different risks / events - i.e. yes you play the lottery even though the odds of winning are 1:13,000,000 because the cost of playing is very small, so you may as well do it in the hope of being the lucky 1! So you can't compare that to the odds of something happening which is not a desired outcome, iyswim.

The thing to weigh up with any risk is firstly how would you feel if it materialised. Is it an outcome (having a Down's baby) which you could live with, or think you would not or could not manage? Is it an outcome which is undesirable but manageable? Would you feel able to terminate at this stage if you decided that was the right thing? Answers to these questions are deeply personal but should help guide you towards the right answer.

Sending thoughts and un-mumsnetty hugs your way x

ICompletelyKnowAboutGuineaPigs Sat 23-Mar-13 18:23:14

How exciting Wing - glad you've got some water so HB plans aren't entirely scuppered. Am very very uncomfortable today so am a bit envy that you may have your baby soon, even though I don't really want want miniGuinea to arrive yet.

Good news about your mum Tired, hope she has a speedy recovery.

Congrats on getting to 20 weeks Gary, I remember feeling like I had achieved something when I got half way grin .

Can't remember who on here babywears... but just wondered if anyone has tried a carrier cover? If so any recommendations?

Sending you a small wine Frogs as I think you deserve it with all the worrying. Have you looked at the ARC website btw?

WingDefence Sat 23-Mar-13 18:35:47

Guinea I never wore DS out in the rain apart from with a brolly so can't help you with covers I'm afraid.

No news here although bloody show is still forthcoming. On my 4th panty liner now (I would say TMI but nothing's TMI for us JSer grads!), with a few mini clots last time I went to the loo. I wonder if it'll start overnight or not for a few days? My MW trainee best friend is driving up from Worcs just to see me for the day on Tues so I'd *love* it if she were here for my labour as she's not seen a HB yet!

Oh and water is back on - phew grin

Rockchick1984 Sat 23-Mar-13 21:21:08

Guinea I've never used a cover - front carries I put my maternity coat on and fasten it around us both, or just a normal coat and make sure his hands and feet are inside. We usually both end up roasting hot anyway so no need for too many layers! Back carries I bought Spider-Man tights from H&M for under DS's jeans so no gaps at the top of socks, and wear him over my coat. Oh, and a big golf umbrella for the rain!

WingDefence Sun 24-Mar-13 14:12:22

Hi all - nothing to report here! Had painful BHs all this morning and thought something was starting but back to nothing happening now.

Now just watching Kung Fu Panda with DS and chilling out a bit smile

MrsBri Sun 24-Mar-13 14:21:09

I'll keep my fingers crossed for later on, Wing!

We are spending today watching / videoing my bump moving and bouncing all over the place! DH loves it, bless him. :-)

tiredteddy Sun 24-Mar-13 14:52:41

Hi all and happy weekend to you too.

Wing, hope the bh aren't painful? Enjoy the rest today!

Guinea, I'm joining the ranks of saying that I've used slings with dh's coats over the top and a Bromley in wet weather. I am loving my new ergo it is SO comfortable!

We had friends round for dinner on fri night for DH birthday which was really nice, fern just slept through the event in her rocking seat. Just bought a travel cot as we are have a night away next Friday. We are taking the boys to Bewilderwood in Norwich. It looks amazing.

WingDefence Mon 25-Mar-13 07:57:20

Nothing happening here!

I found an old online journal I used to have around the time I was pg with DS and it looks like I thought my show happened 8-9 days before DS actually appeared hmm which is really making me angry because I'm getting impatient now!

Today I think DH and I are going to pop out for a coffee and then I'm going to go to my village cafe as the lady who owns it and who I know pretty well is the semi-retired MW who said I looked huge at 24 weeks and have me a complex just for a chat.

Hope you all have lovely days planned.

Kittenkatzen Mon 25-Mar-13 10:16:25

Here you are, I lost you all.

frog hope you're doing ok this morning - feeling any clearer about things this morning?

wing how exciting! Ooh if it's 8-9 days then you might actually have an April Fool's baby! My friend is one and she loves it smile

tired I just googled Bewilderwood, it really does look amazing - I want to go!!

gary congrats on 20 weeks! Halfway woop woop!

I think I may have felt a first flutter of movement on the train to work this morning. Could have just been wind though of course! Still, made me feel better after my dad kindly pointed out to me on Saturday that at the moment I don't look pregnant, just fat. Thanks dad!

ICompletelyKnowAboutGuineaPigs Mon 25-Mar-13 10:53:26

It's nice to be able to rely on family members for encouraging comments isn't it Kitten! Great news on feeling the baby move smile.

Not too long now Wing. I feel like I have ages to go. Realistically I know that I need the time to get everything prepared - house, work finished, last few bits and bobs for me/baby, and stuff for HB. BUT I am really uncomfortable. I keep getting painful contractions with really bad back ache, but they're very irregular. They seem to be worse at night and when I'm sitting and doing MN and FB work at the computer. It's making it really difficult to concentrate and I just want to be in the bath all the time! Still, this is my last pregnancy so I am determined to enjoy the final few weeks of growing a person...

I went to an active birth class last night at the hospital and it was fab. DH found it really helpful and has said it saved him loads of reading. It also prompted some helpful discussions that need TBC but at least we have more idea about what we agree on and what we don't.

I am currently sitting on my birth ball with the laptop propped up on a tray and numerous pillows to try and avoid working at the desk - if only I could find a way of typing in the bath grin hmm.

Going out for coffee sounds good Wing. Can't wait until I officially finish work and then I can relax and take some time out without feeling guilty. Must get on then, hope you all have a lovely day.

ChildOfThe1980s Mon 25-Mar-13 15:21:34

Active birth classes- they sound interesting. I might have to research that for my area.

I have just started part two of Ina May's book about childbirth, and apparently anxiety can not only slow labour down, it can make your cervix close. Must try to remain as calm as possible- easier said than done of course.

frogchops Mon 25-Mar-13 18:18:09

Hi, have just posted this on another thread so sorry if you've read it!
I think being as I need some help in deciding on amnio or not I'm gona go for a private marker scan to look specifically for downs markers. Markers will sway my decision towards amnio whereas few or no markers will help me deal with the risk (the clinician said it will change my risk score if this is the case) ..,.so altho I can't afford harmony, this is my next best option. I'm also going to ask tht my 20 wk scan is at a diff local hosp, one that has state of the art stuff to detect things and has a specialist ante natal medicine centre.

Rockchick1984 Mon 25-Mar-13 18:20:16

Sounds like a good plan Frog, when can they check for the markers?

frogchops Mon 25-Mar-13 18:23:39

Am going to ask the best time tomorrow rock, it suggests 18 week I think.

Rockchick1984 Mon 25-Mar-13 18:28:02

Would you be able to go through with a termination that late if it turned out positive, or would you just want to be pre-warned? Hopefully there will be no markers anyway so you won't need to worry, but I'm very pro-choice but not sure I could do it once baby was kicking etc. It just seems very late, I think it may be worth seeing if it can be done sooner than that if possible. Hope that doesn't sound insensitive, I don't mean it to!!

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