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The 2nd broadly Gemini luxury bus.

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Welcome aboard, for the trip that will take us into the 2nd trimester and beyond, Make yourself comfy as we head towards maternity clothes, new bras, blooming, bumps, scans, and fading ms. Full of chatting, moaning tmi and mutual support.

Here is the link to our last bus.

Jojobells1986 Thu 06-Dec-12 22:42:37

Maybe don't mention it & get him to call them afterwards & say, "So you liked her, right? Well that's good because she's going to be around for a long time!" grin

If they don't seem keen once you've told them then you could remind them that it takes 2 to tango & maybe they should've taught him to use multiple methods of contraception if they were that worried about it... Or just act like you're both thrilled & it's the best thing to ever happen! Tell them how amazing their son has been to you & how he's a credit to them - they can't hate you for that! wink

I'm not being very helpful am I? I'm awful at telling people things, even if it's good news! blush How did your GP appointment go? Have you got a scan date yet?

OhThePlacesYoullGo Thu 06-Dec-12 22:53:48

Haha I like the first suggestion... boyfriend said forget it, we are telling them together. Ugh.

And believe it or not, but we actually did use two types of contraception. My meds make pill less effective though, which is why we always went for condoms as well. I mean seriously what are the odds??? Can you see why I was in a bit of a state of shock?

GP appointment went well and scan is next Friday. Boyfriend is dealing with my worry that medication could have caused neural tube defects by saying stuff like: 'Maybe it has flippers! Wouldn't it be awesome if it had flippers?' or 'Gosh, I hope it glows in the dark - just think how useful that would be...'. Which ends with me cracking up, so perhaps an unorthodox, but nonetheless very affective way of dealing with me. smile

Jojobells1986 Thu 06-Dec-12 23:39:34

Rofl! A glow-in-the-dark flippered baby! That'd be awesome! grin I'll be so jealous if you get one! envy

Blending Fri 07-Dec-12 10:36:40

Love the dark humour! When we had an inkling it was twins (high hgc blood tests) DH said if it was I'd have to choose which one to keep! To be fair I know hes worried about my health as last time I had pre-eclampsia with server odema.

I had a full crash/seizure as my blood pressure went too high (200/125) (after a 4 day labour wth no progression and 2 failed epidurals), so I was pumped full of magnesium sulphate to stablise me and had emergency c-section.

The fun started when I was released 2 days later only to be rushed back in by my eagle-eyed midwife the following morning. I'd had a large pullmonary-embolism and was lucky to be alive! I also had post-partum cardio-myopathy (one of my heart valves had nearly given up the ghost) and pneumonia just for good measure!

So I understand why he is a little bit worried about me carrying 2, but I have the best possible consultant led care, I wont be allowed to go full term so no labour, and if anything the twins mean more not less monitoring.

Any suggestions on how to clear my sinuses, the usual steam/vapour rub/olbias oil type stuff isnt working. Woke in the night with a cracking headache/faceache (I thought it was toothache at first,) paracetamol is taking the edge off it, but I'm wondering if theres anything I can take for it? This flipping cold has been hanging around for over a week now, and is morphing further.

OhThePlacesYoullGo Fri 07-Dec-12 12:28:07

Blending do you also have epilepsy? Sounds like you had a really rough time of it with your last pregnancy. Wish you all the luck with this time around.

Librarina Fri 07-Dec-12 12:54:21

Blending sorry youre feeling poorly. I use acupressure when I suffer with sinusitis. I'll try to explain it in words.

Find your eyebrows with your fingertips. Go to the inner part, by the bridge of your nose. Just above the eyebrow there are little 'pits' or dents in your Facial bones, one on each side. Find those.

Then go to the bottom of your nose, where your outer nostril flares out. On your face/top lip there are similar little pits.

First massage your eyebrow point for a count of ten, then move down to your nose/top lip point for a count of ten.

You can also get relief from massaging your temples, across the tops of your eyebrowns (middle of face out) and from the inner corners of your eyes down across your cheeks towards your ears.

Hoe this makes sense and helps some!

Ali x

bringonthetrumpets Fri 07-Dec-12 19:04:38

Have you tried a nettie pot or facial steam tent yet (bowl of boiled water with eucalyptus, rosemary, and sometime of mint essential oils and then tent a towel over your head) ? Both are great for clearing out the sinuses. I'm slightly worried that it could be infected sinuses if you've been feeling it for a while and are experiencing a lot of headaches. Might be worth it to have a GP check it out if it continues on through the weekend.

Very scary eclampsia story! So glad you're okay! It's pretty rare to get it again. You just really have to stay on top of getting in plenty (a lot with twins!!) of nutrition in during pregnancy to ensure your blood volume doubles. Homebirth midwives over here believe that pre-eclampsia is due to a contracted blood volume which messes with the liver and kidneys. Lots and lots of protein and fresh greens!

Blending Sat 08-Dec-12 10:24:16

Thanks for all the suggestions. I saw the GP last night and I bow yet again to your wisdom Trumpets. The sinuses are indeed heavily infected, and I've been prescribed antibiotics.

As for my blood levels, you are a mind reader! I am under a haematology/thrombology specialist during this pregnancy and I have to self-inject fragmin to thin the blood daily. Yesterday I had my levels checked at the hospital and they called me later raise my drug amount as its still not quite right. Spooky you should mention that!

I eat healthily in general, although I have craved a lot of crap this pregnancy I have maintained a balance. I mainly cook from scratch, and avoid ready meals.

Just wrote a huge amount and deleted it in summary: DH says he needs to get a grip, as he resents the fact I am less active, and he knows that he is being a prick, and its not my fault that I am not the same as before I got preggers.

Off to the walk-in centre later as DD has a rash. Looks a lot like the Hand Foot and mouth she had 6 months ago, but no temp or blisters in the mouth. Probably viral but will get her checked out.....

FGS just realised that this means Thursday is the only day this week that I haven't been to a hospital, GP or other medical centre!

FrustratedSycamoreSnowflake Sat 08-Dec-12 12:36:53

Hi ladies
Sorry you're not feeling too good blending

I'm okay, i'm totally knackered, and my eyes have gone dodgy (normal for me for pregnancy) so I can't focus to read as it makes me feel sick and dizzy. So have to hunt my glasses out, then I'll be back.

bringonthetrumpets Sat 08-Dec-12 16:43:19

Ah Blending, so glad you're getting relief! Those sinus headaches are torture and pure agony at times. Keep up the yogurt or other fermented foods (miso, sauerkraut, kimchee, etc) to help you to avoid getting thrush from the anti-b's. Hope it clears quickly for you!! Also bad news on the little one. Hope it's nothing serious. You deserve a break from the medical facilities!

It just takes DHs a long time to adjust to the new us (even when they've been through it before!). It's hard when they have no idea of what it feels like to be drained of energy, have sore hips, feel nauseous for no reason, having to pee all the time.... I'm just glad that he's spoken to you about it and that stressor is gone for you both. Mine responded very similarly just recently and it was nice to give him some insight on the new normal of me feeling slightly off a bit more than normal from now until June.

kittenskittenskittens Mon 10-Dec-12 07:58:51

Morning girls, we've gone quiet of Kate havnt we, is that because we're almost all past that horrible first tri? Nic when is your scan?
Think I felt little kitten this morning, lying on my tummy felt a little flick 4 times in the same place intermitedly, it was lovely, have thought I've felt something a couple of times but this is the first time I'm pretty sure

kittenskittenskittens Mon 10-Dec-12 07:59:24

Of Kate? Late!!

Librarina Mon 10-Dec-12 10:08:25

Hi, hope everyone is well.
I had a pretty hectic, but very lovely weekend. Took Bean to see Pulp in Sheffield, we were supposed to be spending the day there but somebody DH stayed up till 4am drinking whisky and playing Trivial Pursuits with our friends so couldn't get up the next morning! I don't really mind, as soon as he did eventually rise, I went back to bed for a nap... we are the worst hosts ever! Anyway Pulp were amazing but it was a very late night for a pregnant woman so Sunday just pottered around the Christmas Markets and fed the baby cheese and non-alcoholic punch.

I'm happy as I think I have a little bump today. It could however just be all the cheese.

Lorelei353 Mon 10-Dec-12 11:14:07

Good morning. Hope everyone's well.
Had a busy weekend. On Saturday we went to Christmas drinks/housewarming at a friends house. She's a very close friend of my DH and she's almost 17 weeks pregnant. It was fun as I haven't seen her since she told DH that she was pregnant. She looks great. Little bump.
Yesterday got to meet two close friends and their two-year old for morning coffee and told them the news. They were thrilled for us. Then finished my Christmas shopping yesterday.
Great weekend all round.
Also just found out this morning that my DH's business partner's girlfriend is 13 weeks along as well! So she's only a week behind me. Can't stop smiling. Such a great surprise. Will be so fun.

I swear I can feel the start of a bump too librarina. Higher up my tummy still feels like soft belly but down lower it feels harder than it did. More bump-like. Exciting! grin

bringonthetrumpets Mon 10-Dec-12 14:04:00

Yay! We're all growing bumps! Sounds like everyone had a busy weekend. Ours was very uneventful and consisted of being snowed in with 13 inches of snow (so excited I get out of having to shovel snow this winter!!), laundry, cleaning up a whole lot of sick from DS #1 (ew), and a grocery shop <see I told you not exciting at all>

Yay, yay, kitty! Best feeling in the world. smile

Blending Mon 10-Dec-12 14:05:00

Feeling more and more obviously pregnant now. Envious of anyone who has that perfect "Gucci" bump. You know without the bum or boobs going huge! To be fair, I look normal from behind, when I swung around earlier a colleague who hadn't seen me for a while gasped and ask how the heck she had missed that!

Well they said on Saturday Dd had a viral rash, even though she's fine in herself...they were right just not specific enough, as I had a call in work from nursery that its chicken pox.

It doesn't look like it to me, so back to the walk-in centre, and they said it could be a mild case, only one spot which is on her scalp looks suspious, but as she's had a rash since Thursday they would be scabbing over by now, which they're not. Confused? Join the club!

Work allow carers days off so I'm taking a couple then we'll see. I've had it so no big risk apparently. I'm still feeling the sinuses at bit, and not sleeping properly so could use a couple of days to chill, without me being classed as off work sick.

Blending Mon 10-Dec-12 14:13:06

Ooh just opened the results of the scan and blood tests and my Down's syndrome risk is a nice low 1 in 7400. I was happy after the scan, but its nice to have the reassurance in writing!

Lorelei353 Mon 10-Dec-12 15:56:58

Nice to get those results in writing blending. Hopefully make you feel a bit better. Sounds like you're having a tough time of it right now.

FrustratedSycamoreSnowflake Mon 10-Dec-12 19:12:57

Blending, they should all be at the fluid blister stage about now. Dd1 had a suspicious viral rash about 2 years ago, only 4 blisters that didnt scab over. Kept her off school anyway. Last year dd2 got cp horrendously bad (she was plastered inside and out) and ended up in the children's ward, dd1 only had 14 spots in total. Some children have better natural immunity than others, but i wouldn't presume that your dd won't get them again.

I wish I wasn't coming to the end of the 1st tri end of sickness milarky, unfortunately my ms seems to have taken it up a notch. Bleugh.

I have a huge bump, and some of the kids at work have figured it out. I think it will be obvious to all after Christmas.

Midwife tomorrow, fx I get to hear a heartbeat.

bringonthetrumpets Mon 10-Dec-12 20:22:45

I can totally sympathise frus! After a few weeks of sick-free, I've been feeling lingering ms again for the past couple of days. But then again, I've also returned to feeling absolutely exhausted as well. I think my uterus grew like 2 cms, it's up to my bellybutton already!

FrustratedSycamoreSnowflake Mon 10-Dec-12 20:39:50

Totally with you on the exhausted front trumpets [yawn] I'm back to stupidly early nights.

kittenskittenskittens Mon 10-Dec-12 21:15:51

Can't believe your ms has lingered frus, did you get it with your dd's?
Good news on the downs test blending, I won't get mine till mw app and that's not till a week tomoz as based it on my before scan date, everything seems so far away! Sorry to hear about all the sickness etc, it is true as frus says how it affects everyone differently, I had 6 spots my sis had thousands in ears in bum etc poor mite, I did wonder if dd had them but she only had 5 on her bum but blistery and not sure whether it was or not, it's frustrating when you don't know for definate

kittenskittenskittens Mon 10-Dec-12 21:17:39

Sorry to hear your ms is still there too bring sad

FrustratedSycamoreSnowflake Tue 11-Dec-12 07:35:43

I'm afraid I got it longer than normal with both dds and for longer each time kitten I'm in for the longhall this time, not expecting it to go anywhere for at least another 4 weeks. that reminds me I need more meds

Midwife this morning, they told me to book in after scan so could be based on new dates, must remember to pee in pot.

kittenskittenskittens Tue 11-Dec-12 08:57:20

Makes more sence that way! I guess a week out isn't much but would have liked to have heard the little heart beat!
That's the pits to have ms for so long, hats off for going through it again!
Tried to let dd use the potty this morning as she went and got it. She sat on it for about 10 mins and did nothing then while I went to get a new nappy weed on the floor! Thankyou darling
How everyone else's symptoms etc, mine had gone completely accept the need to have a wee has returned at 5 in the morning- so anoying!!

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