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Sheldonella Tue 16-Oct-12 08:31:21

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JoJoBella84 Tue 16-Oct-12 16:35:11

At what point should a birth plan be shown? If I want to try for a water birth is there any point in sharing that with my MW in York as I'm planning to deliver in Aberdeen? Also I won't see my Aberdeen MW until 2/3 weeks before my due date. Is that too late to let them know? Or do they just ask for it on the day?
My plan is simple, if I need drugs I'll ask for them, if I want to move around I'll do it. OH to cut the cord, birthing pool if possible but ultimately the safe arrival of my DS.

Chefette Tue 16-Oct-12 16:47:52

Sundae, my nip-norks are just bloody ouchy. Even an accidental brush of the towel after shower over them takes my breath away (and no ladies not in a good way?!) hope to goodness it changes so the bairn can get a good "Sook" wink

Chefette Tue 16-Oct-12 16:56:17

In Montrose the woman is encouraged to think about birth plan or ideas from 20 wk scan, and write stuff about it in notes section, you work together on it with your MW from 24 wks appt but anytime. Maybe more relevant as there is no epidural, doctor or surgical intervention at Montrose and have to be transferred to Dundee for that (45 mins).

Needless to say ill wait till nearer the time, it'll prob all change !!!!

EthelredOnAGoodDay Tue 16-Oct-12 17:50:05

I seem to recall having a brief discussion with my MW at one of my later appts and then, that was it really until I got to hosp and handed my noted in. When I was screaming for an epidural the mw said, well you've said you want to try the pool and I see you've brought your sieve (I kid you notgrin) so shall we at least give it a try? And I'm glad I did, even though ultimately I didn't deliver in the pool.

I think it's handy to either have very brief, key points written in your notes, or have a birthing partner who is fully briefed on what your wishes are as, with the best will in the world, you might not always be able to fully articulate yourself in the throws of contractions!

sarahs999 Tue 16-Oct-12 18:00:06

Thanks rainbow and pink. No, I sit down all day every day! They ate swollen again today but not quite so badly. Ordered some pee sticks online today; my consultant wanted me to get my urine tested but I can't face the rigmarole of trying to get an appt at the doctor. Maybe tomorrow. My bp is still normal; I have a machine at home and was testing every week but might go to daily now. Hope everyone else is ok. In other news my hips are v painful at night, am using a body pillow but may have to start experimenting with lots more grin

GummiberryJuice Tue 16-Oct-12 19:05:16

Emm Ethel please tell me you brought a sieve to bake a cakegrin I have never heard of bringing a sieve ?

GummiberryJuice Tue 16-Oct-12 19:06:15

Ps you have now officially got me back for the spider in the hose post, I'm freaking out

Sheldonella Tue 16-Oct-12 19:13:16

Ooh do you have to provide your own sieve??

Sorry to hear about your worries sarah

ThreeForTea Tue 16-Oct-12 19:29:23

Confuddled what a great birth template! I'm going to use it to make my VBAC plan. Have consultant appointment a week on Friday so am just going to see what I am allowed. I have a friend who is a midwife in London, but she gave birth up here earlier this year and she managed to have a waterbirth despite it being a Vbac, so knowing that I might be a little bit pushier.

Sundae my work did some public consultation about MK hosp over the summer, part of my data analysis role at the moment is to go through some of the info. Lots of the feedback comes from mothers and overall the experiance is that the mat services at MK are a lot better than they were, so thats good for you smile Totally think your hb plan sounds lovely though, so hope everything goes well with that. Do you have a hypnobirthing teacher already?

Just having a relax right now watching stuff on netflix with dh. Had a busy couple of days at work but fed back to boss today and he's really happy with what i've been doing, so thats nice. Need to do some tidying up later as someone is coming tomorrow for the first time to clean. Also... tumble dryer arrives tomorrow, woohoo, one more sleep! grin

lannyshrops Tue 16-Oct-12 19:39:48

Hey all,
Love the new thread name! Thanks sheldon
Did you enjoy your long awaited bath stormy? I lived on a flat for 5 years with only a shower, anytime I stayed anywhere with a bath I was straight on there! I have to enquire about the duck and bacon combo, never had that, tasty?
Where did you go at the weekend myjob? Anywhere nice?
My boobs have not really grown after the first initial spurt, they are definitely Erm firmer and I get lovely shooting pains in my nipples, the joy!
I'm sure the swelling is nothing to be worried about sarah but wise idea keeping an eye on blood pressure and protein with your history. Ankles can swell if sitting too or in any position which is not lying down, can you elevate a little at all in work? Would also advise walking about a bit as all helps venous return which is probably the culprit.
I had to admit defeat in work today after having a near collapse. It's so bloody hot (my ward is directly above the boiler house so it got its very own underfloor heating and is about 28 degrees on average) and bloody stressful with a deficit of 50% (we were due to down size bed base in July, but have been delayed with building works not being completed) with a full service still to run. I keep going, but its really tough. I dont quite know what do really as nothing is going to change in the near future so I will be working like this for another 2 months at least I think. Not sure how.much longer I can do as it is taking so much out of me. I've not had a risk assessment yet so that's probably the best thing to get done. I've only had 3 days off sick since being pg and have had hardly any sickness before pg. My boss has muttered about starting mat leave early if I can't cope but I kind of don't want to, especially as imo its the situation and environment that's the problem, not the pg. Any ideas anyone? I'm getting near the end of my tether.

Sorry, that was a bit mammoth and probably made no sense at all :-(

Em2010 Tue 16-Oct-12 19:44:40

Evening All!

Have calmed down re work situation! Will just have to concentrate on all the stuff that is stressing me out this week! Speaking of which have had morning sickness on and off all day today! Completely unexpected and a bit fed up about it. Fx it's a one off!

ethel sounds like you had a bit of an ordeal with your last labour! Think you are due an easy one this time! I was also told to bring a sieve if I wanted a water birth - must be a York thing!!

sarah so sorry to hear your legs have swollen. That was also my first sign of PE and I check for it every morning this time, very scary. Having said that, my legs were swollen for nearly 10 weeks before any further symptoms evolved so just take it easy and fingers crossed for you!

sundae ouch! Sorry to hear about your nips!! Maybe bodes well for bf though. My nips are flat as pancakes and I'm sure that's why ds could never latch on!

three yay for tumble dryer. Now winter is drawing in I am in love with mine (and its only a washer dryer!) Good times grin

HermioneBoo Tue 16-Oct-12 19:51:37

Hello everyone! I have been lurking as so busy at home and when I'm at work I can't remember my password so just reading and no contributing!
It's so interesting reading about birth plans, tbh this is the first thing I've read about them and delivering the placenta - does that hurt as much as delivering the baby? There is nothing much about it in my books, well not about what level of discomfort to expect anyway.
Has anyone been feeling a bit down recently? I'm still excited about BabyBoo and I'm not dreading it or struggling to get out of bed or anything, but feeling low a lot and overwhelmed. I had a weekend of sobbing over stupid things so thought it had passed, of course watching Downton didn't help me!

Sheldonella Tue 16-Oct-12 20:00:19

Hermione I couldn't sleep after Downton, I was thinking about it all night! I still have those overwhelmed days, I think it's completely normal.

Being hot at work is hard isn't it lanny. I'm struggling sitting in an office is I can't imagine how you are coping on a ward. Hope it calms down.

Ooh, tumble dryers are fab three I couldn't imagine being without mine.

Thread name was thanks to gummi and chefette although I don't think I got it exactly!

Wow I can't believe how much I am eating. I've just had a huge pile of fajitas.

EthelredOnAGoodDay Tue 16-Oct-12 20:06:59

Well gummi let's put it as politely as I can, the sieve ain't for catching the baby! grin

Not sure if it's only York that have this bizarre requirement!

EthelredOnAGoodDay Tue 16-Oct-12 20:12:11

Yes em I do believe I am due an easier time with this one! Let's hope it works out that way! wink

theTramp Tue 16-Oct-12 20:16:05

Hey ladies. Thanks for birth plan template, v useful. Although quite honestly mine remains - shot loads of drugs please and no bollocks about joy of child birth or give it a go without. Ye this is child no 1 and yes it might well be easy peasy. BUT - small hole and large human awkward shaped object to exit said small hole. My bets are on it being bloody painful and not at all joyful - until you at least know the pains stopped anyway.

MrM thinks he'd like to be there if he can. I think I'd rather he wasn't. My Mum thinks I'll want someone with me. I think I'd rather be alone. Apparently I'll change my mind. We shall see. However as I know MrM would film it an the idea of child birth horrified me. Absolutely horrifies me. I'm thinking ostrich approach and drugs are way to go. None of this two paracetamols and see how you do bollocks.

I'm sorry to hear about job woes. It all sounds v stressful and I really hope you get some tunnel light soon. I do think if you're considering a career change mat leave is as good a time as any to think about what you like to do, what you're good at and some research on what's out there.

Funnily enough I prefer to sleep on my left side, I'm quite uncomfy any other way so don't need much help sleeping that way at the mo. Time will tell of course.

I booked myself a pregnancy massage today because my back and shoulder muscles are horribly knotted. Angel therapy rooms have a bump table, so you can actually lie on your front. Role on the end of week treat. It's so bloody busy & stressful this week - work of 3 and just me on not 90% rather than usual 120% - to get it all done. So a reward for finishing it all seemed innorder. Seriously looking forward to it already!

ThreeForTea Tue 16-Oct-12 21:13:24

ugghh taking your own sieve! I think here they keep a special fishing net for the purpose!

Massage sounds lovely tramp, I haven't found anywhere with a bump table yet

FloweryBoots Tue 16-Oct-12 21:21:14

Thought I'd been keeping up well but had about5 pages to read. And of course now my brain has gone to mush adn I don't remember anything I was going to respond to!

re birth plans, I thought I'd tried to befairly to the point and reasonably flexible in mine last time but MW clearly didn't even look at it (or my notes, which had LATEX ALLERGY all over them in big red letters, and DH still had to stop her putting latext gloves on!). I'll be trying to keep it shorter still if poss in hopes they will actually look at it but think it will largely be the same - want to avoid drugs if possible but open to them, let me ask rather than offering please. Would like to try pool if possible. Don't want cord cutting until finished pulsing (not possible last time since the whole thing ripped when they yanked DS out last time!). Might include note that had pethadine last time (more to shut up stupid midwife than anything else I suspect, she just wouldn't stop saying I should have it) and it made not one jot of difference so really no point in it this time.

Though DS birth wasn't reall too bad in the scheme of things, I felt quite traumetised about it immediately after and for a little while. Have an appointment with consultant at end of Oct to go through what happened and all the notes so hoping I will feel like I can fill in some gaps then and be more prepared for next time. Think that appointment, and the one the consultant is setting up with consultant midwife in the labour unit will feed into my birth plan. I think I'll need to include something about how I feel about last time as warning! Bit worried going into labour and a similar environment again might trigger the flash backs again and I'll freek out! Think actually my main worry is that medical types will think and/or say I know what I'm doing as I've done it before, but I really feel like last time it didn't work very well so I really DON'T know what I'm doing! But, hopefully the appointments I have about last birth will help all that. End of waffle!

Someone asked it they were last for 20 week scan at 6 Nov. Mine is 25 or 29 Oct (forget which) so I'm quite late, and will be 22 1/2 weeks by then. Was wondering the other day how come it's so long (well, 2 adn a bit weeks feels like a long time) after I'm 20 weeks and realise they've just booked it after my 12 week scan, not taking into acount I was discovered to be almost 2 weeks ahead of MW dates at 12 week scan so 13+5. Grrr.

Well that was an essay so I'll toddle off to bed.

FloweryBoots Tue 16-Oct-12 21:22:13

Ooo, I had take my own seiv last time in London.

JoJoBella84 Tue 16-Oct-12 21:26:19

flowery it might be worth trying to bring your scan forward. Not sure if its the same everywhere but York were reluctant to do my scan after 20+6 do just check it out. Obviously they had no choice due to my surgery but they weren't happy when booking it.

Rainbowbabyhope Tue 16-Oct-12 21:30:14

tramp yay for the massage! I have a massage most weeks with a lady who specialises in pregnancy massage. She has the most amazing pillow designed for pregnant women where you lie on your side and it supports you everywhere - like floating! Really recommend pregnancy massage to those of you suffering from a bit of stress!

Em2010 Tue 16-Oct-12 21:39:48

Mmm! Yes please to pregnancy massage!! Hope you enjoy yours tramp

I'm still sleeping on my tummy! Is that really bad? Am I going to squash baby?? Oh crikey!

FloweryBoots Tue 16-Oct-12 21:50:20

Ethel Think I was gong to ask how your daughter is with the chicken pox? My DS had it a few months back and we got loads of advice from all quarters on things to hlep (though he fortunately didn't seem bothered by it much at all). Things I remember were oats in the bath, camomile tea bags in the bath, baths generally, antihistamines (i'd never thought of that, think of them as just things for reactions, but I suppose the itch must be a reaction to the virus or something). hmm, though I had more.

backwardpossom Tue 16-Oct-12 21:50:23

Hermione re delivering the placenta - I didn't feel it at all. I had newborn DS on my chest and I think I was just so taken with him that the hospital could have been falling down around me and I wouldn't have noticed! Didn't feel a thing smile

Em2010 Tue 16-Oct-12 22:01:02

Oh yes, second that possom, wasn't really aware of delivery of placenta but it was really fascinating looking at it afterwards! Amazing to think of the job it does! In some cultures the placenta has very special significance and has its own set of rituals...

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