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To refuse to work untill 10pm on xmas eve when above contracted hours because someone else who should doesn't want to

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b584 Sat 07-Dec-13 17:49:37

I work 16 hours a week contracted, Monday and Friday 1,30 till 10pm, those are my hours, sometimes I'm put on the rota for extra if people are on holiday etc, never been a problem, sometimes I am called in when someone is off sick, If I can do it then I will, If I have plans then I won't.

For the last two years since I've worked there I have had to work my hours over xmas, last year was xmas eve and New years eve till closing which was 8pm, the year before was boxing day and New years day the same, Wasn't a problem, I just did it as it happened to fall on my days,

This year the company has decided to stay open on xmas eve and new years eve until 10pm, Last week my manager told me that we are all expected to work on xmas eve at some point so I told him that I am happy to come in on xmas eve but it has to be middle day shift, He agreed as it is outside of my contracted hours,

Went in Yesterday and was shown the rota for xmas week, I have been put down to work xmas eve from 6pm till 10pm, when I asked why I was told it was because the lady that usually works (is conracted) to work till 10pm on a Tuesday has kicked off because she will not get to see her 2 grandchildren who live in her house with their parents put to bed on xmas eve.

She is starting work 4 hours earlier so she can finish at 6 when I am supposed to start, I have told them I will not do it as I have arrangments myself for xmas eve but they are mightly pissed off with me.


themaltesefalcon Sat 07-Dec-13 17:51:21

Nope. They pissed you about and have created their own mess. Their problem, not yours.

BruthasTortoise Sat 07-Dec-13 17:52:10

YANBU. At all.

Ubik1 Sat 07-Dec-13 17:53:34

You are not unreasonable at all

harriet247 Sat 07-Dec-13 17:55:18

Personally I wouldnt have kicked off,id have just done it. At least you get the main body of xmas eve and just really missing tea time/bed time. Id sa yab a little bit u sorry

Rosa Sat 07-Dec-13 17:56:35

Yanbu at all. You agree to do more but as you say its not on one of your contracted days.

DontmindifIdo Sat 07-Dec-13 17:56:53

YANBU - she's contracted to do it, they will have to make her do it. You aren't contracted to work that Tuesday but are going in above your contract and are prepared to do a day shift, check your contract, but unless Christmas eve is not mentioned specifically, they can't make you work on Christmas Eve if it doesn't fall on your working day, point that out and that you are doing them a favour, you can do a day shift or none at all, you will accept none at all.

Squidwardtenticles Sat 07-Dec-13 17:57:30

What kind of job do you do?

The bloody management should do it <gits>

Iamsparklyknickers Sat 07-Dec-13 17:58:58

Nope. It is very much not your problem.

I would go as far as to say if she was that bothered it's up to her to find someone to swap with. Your manager was a fool to just change it without talking to you first.

Rumplestiltskinismyname Sat 07-Dec-13 18:00:50

Yanbu- but... And it shouldn't really matter... But do you have kids at home? If not, I'd probably suck it up and do it. If you have kids at home no way- you are doing them a favour by working on that day.

Iamsparklyknickers Sat 07-Dec-13 18:01:05

Oh say what Don'tmind said!

Pancakeflipper Sat 07-Dec-13 18:01:47

YANBU - they should have asked you seeing as she's messing with her hours.
Though expect frosty atmosphere at work and glares every Christmas from colleague.

HicDraconis Sat 07-Dec-13 18:03:40

YANBU at all! They're asking you to work over and above your contracted hours and have changed the agreed shift based on someone else kicking off.

Point out that you've worked your hours without complaining when Xmas Eve fell on your contracted day (& I'll bet ComplainingGrandparent didn't have to come in then!) and as this is not what you agreed, you have plans and are unable to help out. You've offered the middle of the day shift which is the most you can do, sorry. Those contracted to work Xmas Eve will have to work it.

And that's coming from someone who worked every Xmas and New Year for 10 years - the only year I had off was ML as I had a December baby. When the holidays fall on "your" work days, you put up / shut up or quit and find work somewhere that closes for 2 weeks over Xmas.

emsyj Sat 07-Dec-13 18:04:19

YANBU. There will always be someone who doesn't want to do their share over Xmas/new year. It's not your job to solve the problem, your boss should take a stand and make sure it's fair for everyone every year.

Iamsparklyknickers Sat 07-Dec-13 18:04:31

Well her colleagues 'kids' are adults with their own children.

Imho, that's a bit pathetic. It's her shift - her problem.

YoureBeingASillyBilly Sat 07-Dec-13 18:05:07

Their problem. Not yours. They should have asked you.

I would just turn up for the shift you agreed to do and leave at 6 like agreed.

redshifter Sat 07-Dec-13 18:06:42


I have had similar at work before.

They try and please anyone who kicks up a fuss because it is less hassle for them so then take advantage of people who put up with it without moaning. They think you will back down while they know the other person will continue to kick up a fuss.

It could be difficult if you are contracted to work till 10pm but they shouldn't treat you differently than someone else that also is.

Just calmly stick to your guns. There is no reason why her arrangements should take precedence over yours.

livinginawinterwonderland Sat 07-Dec-13 18:07:12

YANBU at all.

LittleprincessinGOLDrocks Sat 07-Dec-13 18:07:15

YANBU. She should work what she is contracted to work, and any change to that should have been a request (as in the boss could ask for a volunteer to swap - not just decided to move your hours).

b584 Sat 07-Dec-13 18:07:58

My kids are not little anymore so I do not have the whole thing of putting them to bed on xmas eve thing but I have a life of my own and have plans to go out on xmas eve, My bf picks me up on my late days so as this didn't fall on one of my late shift we had made plans,

Me working till 10 means we cannot do what we intended as if he doesn't pick me up then it's a £20 cab fare on xmas eve, the shift will only earn me about £40 as its only time and a half after 6pm,

I would be a bit more understaning if it was her own kids but it's her grandchildren, the parents live with her and she will be there xmas day when they wake up.

FunkyBoldRibena Sat 07-Dec-13 18:08:17

'I might have considered it if you had asked me, but I would have had to shift stuff round. You didn't even ask, just presumed so why would I shift stuff if you can't even respect me by asking first? The answer is 'no'. Go and get the person whose actual job it is to do their actual job'.

SkinnybitchWannabe Sat 07-Dec-13 18:09:58

Dont back down. Management should have told the other person thats their shift and thats what they should do.
I have never changed my contracted hours over the Christmas period (unless the stores closing times differ to my hours- I work evenings) in 22 years.

Rumplestiltskinismyname Sat 07-Dec-13 18:12:02

In that case- definitely don't do it. Not for £20!!

b584 Sat 07-Dec-13 18:13:13

I work for a food chain who has not been doing too we recently, ( not the food side of it but other stuff)

I am not doing it but I don't want bad feeling at work as tbh I do enjoy my job just don't think it's far that I am put in this situation.

needaholidaynow Sat 07-Dec-13 18:19:56

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

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