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Oh God no. Where there really no people with their brains switched on at the product development meet?

I wondered where my BBQ sauce was going wrong. My local asda were out of punches round the face...

That is a very unfortunate turn of phrase

I love Jamie but this series is making him look a right tit, what happened???

I like this series but agree that was a stupid thing to say. Much prefer Jamie to Nigella and the crap she comes out with.

Speaking as one who was once with a 'man' who used to hit then kiss, I just cannot remove my cats bum face at this silliness....

You are kidding me!!!! Where was this said? I had a guy tell me a domestic violence 'joke' the other day. Needless to say i was not amused.

puds He just said it on his C4 15 Minute Recipes programme tonight.

Thanks Katie i haven't seen it, and think i might avoid it now.

I think you need to stop taking everything so literally.He is describing a strong flavour with a sweet after-note, not telling male viewers to beat up their wives

No of course he is not 'telling people' to beat up their wives'.....But it is imagery loaded with offensiveness.

God he's a bloody idiot, isn't he? He's just....dim! What a stupid turn of phrase.

I'll translate.
He was talking about Food
A punch in the face > punchy flavour that hits you when you take a bite.
Little kiss afterwards > sweet, subtle taste afterwards.

Domestic violence? You have got to be joking. The context in which it was said makes the meaning obvious. Why insist on taking it out of context/ taking it literally?

I do not need you to translate. The context is not relevant here. The analogy is not uncommon in DV.

It's an unfortunate turn of phrase, but not as unfortunate as the incessant playing of "Buffalo Stance", his forced ageing cheeky chappiness, and blatant product placement of Uncle Ben's.

mignonette Of course the context is important.
It's just an expression. "It punched me in the stomach"
Not literally obviously.

KittyFane1 - "Domestic violence? You have got to be joking. The context in which it was said makes the meaning obvious. Why insist on taking it out of context/ taking it literally?"

I totally agree, I do think if you look hard enough you can take offense at almost anything anyone says and if people try too hard to avoid giving offense we would live in a very boring society.

However, what come's out of Jamie's mouth at the best of times is a load of old twaddle. His recipes are good but I can't stand his TV persona.

Well, realcoal and Kittyfane, I've racked my brains and I can't think of any other instance where one might dish out a punch, followed by a kiss.

What he said has distinct DV connotations, like it or not.

Greg whatsit on MasterChef uses those sort of expressions too, I think he does to hide the fact that he doesn't really know that much about being a chef.

Of course it has domestic violence connotations. Not funny at all.

Kittyfane you said: It's just an expression. "It punched me in the stomach"

And would you follow that up with "It kissed me in the stomach"?

Never heard that saying before.

Where else might a punch be follwowed by a kiss?

To my mind, DV.

Sorry you don't like the connotations of what Jamie Oliver said.

Still racking my brains too, Katie....Must have been those punches/Kisses that addled it.

JO can't help being too dim to understand the connotations................

Jamie Oliver uses lots of colourful phrases and imagery. This one definitely is loaded with DV connotations.

The language used in everyday situations is important, as it creates a culture where telling 'jokes' about giving the wife a slap if she doesn't have the dinner on the table is seen as acceptable.

It normalises domestic violence.