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To want to cry at this comment on JK today?

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BobbingForPeachys Wed 14-Oct-09 11:12:40

'She wanted to raise my child Christian but I am a Catholic'

(no idea if baby was his or not btw; had to go out)

AIBU to think if someonoe doesn't know that their own religion is Christianity then they probably are a bit dim ? (Clearly what I mean there was somewhat stronger LOL)....... That's before we even get into the wondering why a Catholic would be fathering children randomly....)

Yes I know I was BU to watch JK. But it always makes me feel good about myself- no matter how shit I may be, I at least know who fathered the boys and to keep my dirty washing far away from TV cameras!

GrimmaTheNome Wed 14-Oct-09 11:19:16

I think that would elicit a snort rather than tears from me.


GrimmaTheNome Wed 14-Oct-09 11:20:07

(the hmm was at the twit on JK not you peachy, I hasten to add!)

BobbingForPeachys Wed 14-Oct-09 11:20:13

(tears of frustration- but I should point out RE was my degree subject which might be why...)

BloodshotEyeballs Wed 14-Oct-09 11:20:49

But there are differences. DH is 'Christian' and I am Catholic and there is a lot more mass going and confession in Catholicism...

TrillianSlasher Wed 14-Oct-09 11:20:54

AIBU to want to cry that you are watching Jeremy Kyle and expecting people to make sense.

There is such a thing as BBC iPlayer - you can watch TV in the daytime without resorting to daytime TV.

BobbingForPeachys Wed 14-Oct-09 11:21:34

(though not actual tears natch- think I put the TV on pause and made an OMG statement to DH instead)

don't worry grimma I got the hmm- besides, am posting in AIBU,hmm's away and all that....

BloodRedTulips Wed 14-Oct-09 11:22:31

if that was the dimmest thing said on it today then he must have had a relatively bright bunch on compared to his usual guests wink

BobbingForPeachys Wed 14-Oct-09 11:23:07

Oh yes BE there is a difference But the difference is between Potestant and catholic surely- nboth fall under Christianity

Iplayer comment acklnowledged, excused I hope by fact DH was working on PC, though I acknowledge judicious use of remote should have bena ctivated

BloodshotEyeballs Wed 14-Oct-09 11:24:32

Yes but I don't say I'm Christian, I say I'm Catholic. You don't know how religious they were and if they are particularly religious then there is a big difference.

jeee Wed 14-Oct-09 11:26:33

I have found that many 'Christians' instantly leave you alone when you say the magic words 'I am a catholic' [disclaimer: I am not a catholic]. This prevents a long attempt to convert you. Saying 'I am C of E' does not have this effect. The loonier born-agains will still attempt to catch you.

iwascyteenagewerewolf Wed 14-Oct-09 11:27:48

Jeremy Kyle's existence and highly paid career make me cry.

I would differentiate between Christian and Catholic, btw. In that 'Christian' is a catch-all term for those who follow the Christian religion, and 'Catholic' is a rather specialised subset of same.

BobbingForPeachys Wed 14-Oct-09 11:29:36

Ah BE I should say there was significant emphasis on the importance of the matter to them.

I suppose I am being literal (I do tend towards that) but Ilike corect trerminolgy, and that I guess is Protestantor catholic.

The boarn agains will try to convert anyone, including me (liberal C of W hug - a - sinner variant....),I don't think that'sparticualr tatrgettiing LOl (we haev a fair few at school, and I promise they see me coming0

gorionine Wed 14-Oct-09 11:30:56

I do understand the difference you are making iwascyteenagewarewoolf, but it is like saying apples are not fruit they are apples non?

BloodshotEyeballs Wed 14-Oct-09 11:34:12

...although is it mean to speculate on the devoutness of anyone who appears on JK?

silverfrog Wed 14-Oct-09 11:36:19

oh, i so get what you mean, Peachy.

my dsd insists that I have a different religion from her - she is a Christian, and in her view, I am not (I am Catholic).

I don't know how many times I have explained to her that we are both Christians, and she is C of E whilst i am Catholic, but it just doesn't sink in <sigh>

it makes me want to weep with frustration too - she can tell me all sorts of info she has learnt about different world religions due to all-inclusive RE policy at school, but doesn't know the most basic things about her home religions.

Stigaloid Wed 14-Oct-09 11:37:18

I am a christian but i am not catholic - there is a difference - we may still all believe in Jesus but our prayers and services are vastly different.

Similary Mormons believe in Jesus Christ but their Church is hugely different. Same with Baptists.

scaryteacher Wed 14-Oct-09 11:37:40

In the RE GCSEs I marked this summer the question asks the students to explain something from a religion other than Christianity. The answer begins,,'Roman Catholics believe that....' If I had a pound for every time I saw that I'd be rich. Nul points for the answer though, which speeds up the marking.

gorionine Wed 14-Oct-09 11:40:03

Stigaloid, you can definitely be a Christian without being a Catholic but the other way round is not possible.

BadgersPaws Wed 14-Oct-09 11:40:38

All Catholics are Christian.

Not all Christians are Catholic.

gorionine Wed 14-Oct-09 11:41:40

Thanks BadgersPaw, your version is clearer than mine!

BobbingForPeachys Wed 14-Oct-09 11:42:31

I am going to save up that fruit analogy, it's so simple.

Woul IBU to suggest though that if JK said peoplewere in fact Protestants, many of his guests would then deny charging for it?

<<hides from ST'sappers as coulod imagine deep psychological trauma resulting>>

iwascyteenagewerewolf Wed 14-Oct-09 11:42:59

gorionine, generally speaking yes but with reference to bringing up a child in a particular way there is a difference between MOR Christianity and Catholicism, I would think. So JK's guest is not necessarily being stupid to make the distinction in that context, although all things considered he probably was just being a twat.

(Disclaimer: I am not religious in any way and also don't watch Jeremy Kyle grin)

ImSoNotTelling Wed 14-Oct-09 11:44:07

Ah but I go to a CofE church which in the service refers to us being members of "the catholic church" and the service is very close to what I was used to when a child as I was brought up RC.

So saying "they are christian I am catholic" is probably even more wrong than at first glance. If what he meant was that he was roman catholic and the other were church of england.

BobbingForPeachys Wed 14-Oct-09 11:45:47

I guess I did get what Mr Guest meant, but he was being a prat anyhow ('what can I say,i'm a player' er- how about no?) so I felt free to Judge.

It is something I frewuently come across though, and thankfully ST's post shows it is not just me.

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