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to be fuming at the Little Book of Goodness my son brought home from school today?

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morethan2point4 Thu 24-Sep-09 21:07:11

So, have you had one yet? If you have a child in reception this year you soon will, as they are being distributed to over 750,000 parents. They are apparently being published to offer 'key nutritional advice for their children who are starting school for the first time',but they're just school lunch propoganda!! According to their website..'The Little Book was developed in response to a recent piece of research commissioned by the Trust which discovered that parents had a number of concerns when deciding the school meal options for their child.' but this booklet doesn't offer impartial advice about how to choose between healthy school dinners and healthy packed lunches, it just implies school dinners are better than packed lunches. A wasted opportunity to offer advice on how to make packed lunches healthier, instead choosing to quote outrageous statistical 'evidence' that school lunches are best. For example,'72% of children taking school lunch select vegetables, versus only 6% who take a packed lunch'. Check this stat on their website though, and the next line in the survey concluded the packed children were more likely to have fruit, thats not in the booklet however! Also, 'select' is not the same as 'eat' is it? At least with packed lunches I know what my child has left each day (it comes home!)Ever tried to choose school dinners when your child has a dairy allergy? Or pay for four children to eat them? Shall I go on??? Who do I complain to about this, will parents assume that this booklet is factual, accurate and true coming form school, aren't they??

ToffeeCrumble Thu 24-Sep-09 21:16:13

I don't really understand what you are fuming about. They want to promote school lunches, but if people don't want their kids to have school lunches they can just ignore it surely.

Squishabelle Thu 24-Sep-09 21:16:45

Seems like another load of money-wasting c* to me!

Squishabelle Thu 24-Sep-09 21:18:08

Dcs never had school lunches. Do they make a profit out of them then. Is this why they are pushing them?

Toffeepopple Thu 24-Sep-09 21:22:16

Squishabelle, it is the opposite of a profit at our school. The school had to fork out nearly £10k last academic year because not enough people chose school dinners.

Dianne35 Thu 24-Sep-09 21:23:22

lol - I went to a "curriculum meeting" for my son at Primary school last week (he's not starting school for two years yet!) and there was lots of preachy advice about nutrition being given out at it.

The audience was visibly divided into two camps - the ones who sat and smirked because they were so smug they were already doing the right thing and the ones who folded their arms and glowered because there was no way someone was going to tell them how to feed their kids....

Let's face it, if the nutrition message hasn't got through to folk already, it's not likely to now, so why make out as if we can't organise our own kids' lunches and provide them for them as if we're eejits?!

Probably complain to the local education authority or call the school to find out who dumped them onto them to distribute!

meemarsgotabrandnewbump Thu 24-Sep-09 21:27:30

I don't think it's anything to be fuming over. They are not taking away anyone's choice.

If a parent is already providing healthy packed lunches they will continue to do so.

If it persuades someone who is providing unhealthy packed lunch to switch to healthy school lunches then it is a good thing surely?

BrigitBigKnickers Thu 24-Sep-09 21:34:34

'72% of children taking school lunch select vegetables'

My DD doesn't- the school vegetables are foul frozen crap that are soggy on the outside and hard inside. (Cooked frozen carrots <boak>)

She eats oodles of veg at home though and happily munches her way through the bag of carrot and celery sticks I always put in her packed lunch!

overmydeadbody Thu 24-Sep-09 21:36:33

There is really no point in fuming about this or even complaining about it.


Speaking of school dinners though, every kid having a hot lunch in my school today had cabbage on their plate. Two of the 120 kids actually ate it. That was a lot of cabbage that was scraped into the muck bowl uneaten. Talk a bout a waste of food. If they'd been given carrots, a helluva lot more children would have actually eaten it.

CristinaTheAstonishing Thu 24-Sep-09 21:36:37

DD brought home one of those booklets, is it an orange one? I had a browse through it, looked OK. She wants to try out school lunches and I'd be quite glad if she did as she doesn't eat too much or try enough things, she might give other foods a go.

pippel Thu 24-Sep-09 21:42:41

I thought it was a bit miss leading and a big advert for school dinners.

School dinners are shit I took dd off them when she said she was given carrot soup, I checked with the school and it was true she had! I wouldn't eat carrot soup, so no wonder she was coming home starving.

Now she has packed lunches and she doesn't eat them either but that's because she talks too much grin

LadyGlencoraPalliser Thu 24-Sep-09 21:46:07

Carrot soup! My god what next? Lentils?
The great thing about school meals when they are done well is that they encourage children to try out new things that they might not eat at home - like carrot soup.

happywomble Thu 24-Sep-09 21:47:32

the school dinners are very good at my DCs school. The DCs will be getting them. However I agree the pamphlet was a waste of money...

TheCrackFox Thu 24-Sep-09 21:50:13

72% of Dcs select the vegetables but how many actually eat them?

What a waste of money.

CristinaTheAstonishing Thu 24-Sep-09 21:50:39

LadyGlencoraPalliser I agree

Toffeepopple Thu 24-Sep-09 21:50:47

What is so bad about carrot soup? Am I missing something? I think carrot soup is delicious! Especially when made with lentils - mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

But surely there is a choice anyway? There certainly is at our school. And I have tried the meals, and they are worth going back to school for - really nice and also wholesome.

Squishabelle Thu 24-Sep-09 21:50:59

I assume they budget to make the meals as cheap as possible to make - hence the carrot soup! Can understand if its carrots plus something else soup but soup made with just carrots sounds vile.

blithedance Thu 24-Sep-09 21:52:25

did anyone else get a booklet home from school the other week with propaganda about activity and exercise and a questionnaire to fill in about how much time they spent on the computer etc? That went straight in the recycling.

morethan2point4 Thu 24-Sep-09 21:53:02

I suppose my point is that the suggestion from the booklet is that school lunches are better than packed lunches because they are more nutritional and your child will therefore perform better at school. They've wasted an opportunity to offer advice on healthy packed lunches, and misrepresented their own findings. Even the intro says the booklet has been create to help you make the right choice for your child. .'when you hear why millions of parents are choosing school lunches for their children you'll want the same for yours too'. Thats got to be illegal?
Its published by the dept for education and skills!!!

Toffeepopple Thu 24-Sep-09 21:53:08

Squishabelle, I thought there was some kind of minimum spend? Our council is always rabbiting on about the budget for school meals being now £1.55 per child. We pay £2, so I was figuring the 45 pence was their profit.

But I guess they could fudge the figures to make more.

pippel Thu 24-Sep-09 21:54:46

if it had been lentil soup that would have been great grin

but carrot soup? it cant just be me that thinks it would be horrible can it?

Takver Thu 24-Sep-09 21:56:33

Sympathise with the propaganda complaint - but nothing wrong with carrot soup, honest, its lovely. Also IME the children I know, even the fussy ones, seem to like vegetable soup of most varieties, in fact its something I tend to cook if I have stray children back for tea ( in fact dd's favourite school lunch is cawl which is a kind of Welsh soup served with cheese).

Toffeepopple Thu 24-Sep-09 21:56:37

Our council also did a survey of lunchboxes and the average lunch box had a choclate bar, a fruit shoot, a packet of crisps and one other item.

They sent a specialist to our school to teach us all how to make healthy school lunches and only four people showed up. One of whom was me who does school dinners anyway. It was a shame as the woman made some really good points which applied to any cooking for children.

Maybe they've decided people won't listen to them about packed lunches and it is easier to get them onto school dinners?

It does sound like a wasted chance though.

EightiesChick Thu 24-Sep-09 21:59:15

Weight Watchers carrot and lemon soup that I remember from years ago was lovely - good for satisfying a sweet craving without actually eating a proper sweet thing. Carrot and coriander soup is also nice! Do you know for sure it was just carrot soup?

mazzystartled Thu 24-Sep-09 22:03:16

It's just an advert with a slightly preachy tone. Ignore it if its not relevant to you.

FWIW DS school dinners are ace - choice of 2 mains, baked potato or sandwiches. choice of salad or veg. fresh fruit and a pudding. All cooked fresh on site. I couldn't provide better for £1.55 per head.

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