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'why bottle might be better than breast' - GMTV this morning

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babyignoramus Wed 19-Aug-09 08:15:31

Hasn't even been shown yet but can't imagine it's going to go down too well here!!!!

Anyone else going to watch - it's going to annoy the arse off me but I can't seem to tear my eyes away......

PM73 Wed 19-Aug-09 08:23:36

Personally i am not arsed whether a baby is fed by bottle or breast,so long as baby is healthy & Mum is happy who cares.

Not having a go at you op.

GoldenSnitch Wed 19-Aug-09 08:28:00

I've just put GMTV on - have I missed it?

pinkthechaffinch Wed 19-Aug-09 08:29:11

what I'd like to know is if the mum is obese unhealthy and lives on a really crap diet, would that affect the quality of her breast milk? And if so, would her baby be better on formula?

Has any research been done on this?

babyignoramus Wed 19-Aug-09 08:31:17

No it's not been on yet.

PM73 - tbh I'm not arsed either, I actually FF. It's more the debate that ensues that starts to annoy me - although I must secretly enjoy it or I would't have started this thread! grin

GoldenSnitch Wed 19-Aug-09 08:35:10

I may step away now then. Am on the final chapter of "The Politics of Breastfeeding" and feel FF is definitely inferior.

yada Wed 19-Aug-09 08:35:33

i wonder that as well pink.

plus my dd's were ff but weaned onto healthy food where as my friend bf but started her dc on sausage rolls and happy meals at 6 months, surley my dd's have been given the best start out of these two senarios.

MrsBadger Wed 19-Aug-09 08:39:01

pinkchaffinch

no and no

yes the research has been done

belgo Wed 19-Aug-09 08:40:01

PM73 - that's the whole point - the health of some babies is suffering because of lack of good feeding advice and many mothers are not happy.

typical gmtv.

babyignoramus Wed 19-Aug-09 08:41:03

Sensationalist headline as usual! What she's actually saying is that breast is best but those that choose to FF should be shown how to do it as many people don't get advice on sterilising and making up feeds safely. Which actually makes sense!

GMTV hoodwinked me. Doh!

MorningTownRide Wed 19-Aug-09 08:42:41

y y y PM73

That about sums it up for me without the need for all the brow beating and nastiness.

PatTheHammer Wed 19-Aug-09 08:42:49

Think it was more about the dangers of making up bottles inaccurately and people not being taught the new guideline etc. Seemed quite resonable and they were not saying one was better than the other I hope all the information was accurate although my DD and DS were climbing all over me at the time so only caught snippets. That bloke is a dick though, don't think its unreasonable to suggest thatgrin

beanieb Wed 19-Aug-09 08:43:57

Was talking to a friend yesterday about the general feeding of small babies and (as I haven't had one yet) I wondered - do hospitals send new mothers away with no basic education on what to feed a baby apart from breast milk or formula. I know people who have given their babies chocolate buttons to suck when only a week old. Surely someone somewhere would have had the chat with them about when to wean and how?

Kayzr Wed 19-Aug-09 08:45:51

BeanieB, I wasn't told anything about weaning when I was in hospital with DS1. The HV talked to me about it when he was about 5 months old.

Kayzr Wed 19-Aug-09 08:46:39

But actually thinking about it I was told nothing about breast or bottle feeding. I was just told to 'get on with it'.

FuriousofTunbridgeWells Wed 19-Aug-09 08:49:24

Has it been on yet?

GMTV have an appalling attitude towards breastfeeding.

FuriousofTunbridgeWells Wed 19-Aug-09 08:50:50

beanie newborns should only be fed breastmilk or formula milk!

Totally inappropriate to discuss weaning with a mother who has a newborn, IMO.

msrisotto Wed 19-Aug-09 08:51:06

Furious, it has been on and was disappointingly sedate

babyignoramus Wed 19-Aug-09 08:53:36

Yep it's been on - see my post above. The midwife was talking complete sense, but the presenters' attitude was a bit hmm though - they were actually quite dismissive of breastfeeding.

beanieb Wed 19-Aug-09 08:53:58

"beanie newborns should only be fed breastmilk or formula milk!"

Oh I do know this, what I meant was that I know people or have been told of people who have given really young babies chocolate to lick or ice-creams etc and I just wondered how people leave hospitals or have midwives but can still be so stupid.

Surely someone some time during the pregnancy or after the birth would have tried to educate them on how to feed a baby? I think by putting the word weaning in I gave the wrong impression. What I meant was mums and dad shoving all sorts of crap into a baby's mouth when they should really only be getting milk.

beanieb Wed 19-Aug-09 08:55:13

and why would it be inappropriate to talk about weaning with a new mum - I didn't mean in a 'wean them as soon as you can' sense but more a 'this is what you do and don't do, and this is when you do it'

FuriousofTunbridgeWells Wed 19-Aug-09 09:02:10

Sorry beanie I phrased that wrong, kinda thought you'd know that bit wink I think the kind of people who give few-day-old babies chocolate will do it regardless tbh. I think talking about weaning with a newborn is inappropriate because as a new mother you are concerned with nappies, how often to change them, dressing them, not making them scream, establishing breastfeeding (or, getting to grips with formula), getting enough sleep - I don't think a word about 'food' would have gone in.

IIRC the Birth to 5 book mentions not giving babies anything other than milk, as do most pregnancy books which cover the early days, I'd imagine (only ever looked at two and they both did)

Sorry babyig sorry I missed your post but it's as I suspected and follows 'nicely' the media request last week for stories about breastfeeding - which actually meant a hoohaa over women not being shown how to make formula properly at ante-natal classes, which again is the totally wrong time and I believe there has been research to prove how ineffective it is. Don't quote me, I think Lulu or hunker might have info, or maybe I've dreamt the whole thing, but am sure I've read words to that effect on MN.

FuriousofTunbridgeWells Wed 19-Aug-09 09:06:21

Oh and making formula correctly is nothing to do with breastfeeding - stupid stupid stupid GMTV.

Also if bottles are made incorrectly, where does the argument that they might be better than breastmilk come from?

I couldn't give a flying fig about how anyone chooses to feed their baby but all the headlines and twisted stories in the world will never make formula milk superior to breastmilk, or even 'as good as' and to pretend otherwise does women a disservice.

kellise Wed 19-Aug-09 09:19:09

Im fed up of thease which is best things, we all know breast feeding is best but some Mums choose to ff for whatever reason & its their God given right to do so & doesnt mean ff babies are not as healthy as breast fed ones.
Agree with PM73 as long as baby is healthy and Mum is happy who cares.

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