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Scorpette Tue 14-Jul-09 23:25:42

Okay, before I start, I'd like to point out that I am NOT a troll and what I'm about to write really did happen - I didn't step into a parallel Jeremy Kyle Universe!

I was on the bus this morning and 3 teen girls got on, one of them heavily pregnant. The pregnant one sat next to me, her friends on the seat in front and they were chatting loudly and animatedly - the front half of the bus could hear every word. The pregnant one (who I'll call pg-girl) was continuing a conversation the the other two and was fuming about a Doctor's appointment and said: "So I said to him, how was I supposed to know you can get an STI when you're up the duff? You don't need to use condoms if you're pregnant do you, the stupid twat. And he said that you do if you wanted to prevent STIs and I was like, yeah whatever - why would you use condoms? You can't get pregnant! Anyway, he then told me it could cause problems for the baby and when it's born, yeah, so I said, well I'll just have one of those Sumerian* Sections then and he was all like, we don't just give them out willy-nilly and I was like, whatever, and he gave me these tablets and shit, yeah, and said if I was going to shag someone then I have to make the guy use condoms!'. 'Ew!', said one of her pals, 'that is well rank, innit?!'. 'Yeah' said pg-girl,' that ain't happening - well embarassing to ask some random to use a johnny when you just want a quick shag!'. 'Anyway', says the other girl, 'forget about that shit - we're on holidays now, innit'. She then got 3 bottles of WKD out of her bag and all 3 sat and drank them. I was hmm and biting my tongue. Pg-girl then got a tin out of her bag and started rolling a roll-up fag, which she put behind her ear. An old man sat opposite leaned over and said 'You can't smoke on the bus, young lady'. She then yelled at him, 'AM I smoking on the bus, cunt? NO! I'm gunna smoke it when I get off, so fuck you!'. The old man said, 'Well you shouldn't be smoking at all in your condition, Miss' and pg-girl started shouting 'What's it to you? Why do you care about my baby? Are you a fucking Paedo? Paedo! PAEDO!' and all 3 girls started pointing at the old guy and yelling 'PAEDO!' at him. shock The bus driver pulled over and threw the girls off, amidst much swearing. As he did so, a middle-aged woman shouted 'He's not a paedophile for caring more about your unborn child than you do, you nasty little slut!'. Not exactly a nice thing to shout, but must confess I secretly agreed.

I swear I've not exaggerated any of this. Am I being snooty or judgemental at being utterly shocked and disgusted? I just can't believe people live their lives like that. Feel so sorry for that child before it's even born!

*Yes, she really said 'Sumerian Section'. Is it some sort of ancient middle eastern operation?

dizzymare Tue 14-Jul-09 23:31:14

I find that more sad than shocking tbh. And It does make you wonder what kind of upbringing the girl has had. Oh dear, maybe I'm being judgemental nowblush

Alambil Tue 14-Jul-09 23:31:27

it is shocking, but there's a lot of "parents" around like it

ClaudiaSchiffer Tue 14-Jul-09 23:33:41

Crumbs, what lovely girls they sound.

Just darlings all of them.

Lucky lucky baby.

epithet Tue 14-Jul-09 23:35:05


I don't believe this for one minute.

Fruitbeard Tue 14-Jul-09 23:35:31


Mind you, I was sitting in the medical centre waiting to see the HV when pregnant and 3 girls came in (do they have to travel in 3's?), one of whom was heavily pg.

I wasn't waiting long enough to catch all of their conversation but it largely consisted of them moaning that they had to stand outside in the cold to smoke. One of the choice phrases that stuck in my head was 'yeah, well, at least I ain't havin' no abortion, not like that slag Charlotte. That's well dirty, like a prostitute, innit?'hmm

FenellaFudge Tue 14-Jul-09 23:37:37

Nonsense. Dont believe a word ...

honeybehappy Tue 14-Jul-09 23:41:11

Why dont you believe it epithet? ive heard similar conversations on the bus.

poor poor baby.

epithet Wed 15-Jul-09 00:00:40

It's not the conversation between the girls - that's credible enough. It's the rest of it that sounds like a manic soap script.

If it's true I am shock.

BOFwithagallicshrug Wed 15-Jul-09 00:06:48

Are you a scriptwriter for Armstrong and Miller? grin

This thread is still open at the same place it was when I started watching tv for a bit, so apologies if I'm stating the obvious!

Scorpette Wed 15-Jul-09 00:12:44

It IS true. Sorry for my writing style, but I was trying to condense it so I didn't write a massive essay (I am a writer, BTW, so I was doing a bit of a lazy 'script' style). It didn't happen all in one go like I wrote, because otherwise I would have had to have added in lots of boring details that would seem irrelevant to the main details (like them chatting about headbands and shoes and so on as they drank their WKDs or what the bus driver said as he managed to get them of the bus, etc.) but it DID happen, and in the order I wrote it. The only reason I posted it was because I found it so shockingly awful. Why would I post a made-up OP? Anyone can see from my comments on other stuff that I am a serious Mner, not a bullshitter.

BOFwithagallicshrug Wed 15-Jul-09 00:14:43

Oh I know you are Scorpy, it just sounds so funny when you write it down like that!

StayFrosty Wed 15-Jul-09 00:21:01

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Scorpette Wed 15-Jul-09 00:23:41

I know! That's the problem - it does sound like Armstrong & Miller, like BOF said, or Catherine Tate or something! But I couldn't write down everything that was said, and of course, I didn't get it 100%. She did say 'Sumerian Section', though! I was thinking 'Sumerian Section???' for about 2 mins till I worked it out!

Been feeling a bit sad cos people think it's made-up. For that kid's sake, I wish it was!

OldLadyKnowsNothing Wed 15-Jul-09 00:24:27

Sounds totally believeable to me. There is a young woman of my acquaintance who behaved in similar fashion (and worse - the poor girl really needs, but will not accept, professional help). Her baby has been taken from her under child protection legislation.

FlappyTheBat Wed 15-Jul-09 00:26:06

Oh, I wish you were a troll but having recognised so much of your post, I doubt you are sad

FenellaFudge Wed 15-Jul-09 00:27:01

Sorry Scorpette - I shouldn't have said I didn't believe it. You're right, no reason why you'd make it up.
It's pretty bloody extreme though - she sounds a right shocker!

Greensleeves Wed 15-Jul-09 00:28:26

I don't think it's made-up

Poor poor girl, for the shock and trauma she has coming to her

and poor baby sad

there should be more help and support available to girls in this situation, she is a badly brought up child who doesn't know any better.

hmc Wed 15-Jul-09 00:29:51

Holy shit!

hmc Wed 15-Jul-09 00:31:21

(That was in reaction to the scenario described by OP - not a comment on anyone's post!)

limonchik Wed 15-Jul-09 00:32:34

I just think poor girl and poor baby.

Scorpette Wed 15-Jul-09 00:42:09

It was really upsetting. I wrote the OP because it upset me and I wanted to share. Had quite a sheltered upbringing myself and it shook me. Have reread it and I did make it sound quite funny - I think that was an unintentional thing in response to it distressing me. Has been playing on my mind all day. I can't help but wonder what kind of godawful upbringing those girls have had themselves (or rather, NOT had) to behave like that. Hopefully, her behaviour is not a reflection on her family in fact, and so the baby will get some love and positive treatment. Not holding out much hope, though sad

Technofairy Wed 15-Jul-09 00:47:33

Nope, entirely believable in my opinion and based on my professional experiences.

Funny thing is I work in a building that we share with the NHS and DoH and I am horrified by the number of pregnant staff members from those two organisations who use our shared smoking area - and I smoke! I'm talking middle and senior management grades, not cleaners or domestics that the Daily Mail mentality thinks are the usual suspects here.

I never smoked when I was pregnant, had given up a year or so before, and I KNOW how difficult it is but I'm sorry there is no excuse for it. But STIs, WKD and the rest. Dreadful. I fear for her and her baby. Actually I fear for her baby, I think she is probably a lost cause by now.

thumbwitch Wed 15-Jul-09 01:02:07

I'll join you in the Judgey McJudgey camp then - totally believable, several girls like that around my way sadly. Makes you want to weep for the baby - whatever will its life be like?

It did sound very Vicki Pollard - but that's also based on observational humour, so still believable.

BunnyLebowski Wed 15-Jul-09 09:24:42

That poor poor baby sad

Some poor wee buggers just don't have a chance do they? sad

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