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to exclude this boy from DD's party?

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gonaenodaethat Sun 12-Jul-09 09:25:20

DD wants to have an early evening disco for her classmates on her 11th birthday.

She currently has a broken arm caused by some rough play at school involving two boys in her class. Now, I know they didn't mean to hurt her and certainly not to break her arm but while one of the boys has been very apologetic, sending her a card etc, the other one is denying responsibility and hasn't apologised.

I'm cross about this because if ever there is any trouble in the class then this boy is involoved. He has been excluded in the past and has assaulted a teacher.

I don't want this boy at DD's party. DD is frightened of him and I don't feel like taking responsibility for him at a party.

On the other hand he's just a little boy and I hate the thought of anyone doing the same to any of mine.

So, what to do?

cornsilk Sun 12-Jul-09 09:26:12

Will he be the only child in the class who isn't invited?

gonaenodaethat Sun 12-Jul-09 09:29:17

He would be. That's why I'm not comfortable.

2shoes Sun 12-Jul-09 09:29:56

don't invite him.
if your dd is scared of him, why should her special party be ruined by his attending.

Scrumblicious Sun 12-Jul-09 09:30:46

It really depends on whether he will be the only child not invited. I think it would be cruel to exclude only him (despite understanding your reasons), but if there will be others who aren't invited then it would be fine not to invite him.


PuppyMonkey Sun 12-Jul-09 09:31:03

Reduce the guest list? Just have girls?

4andnotout Sun 12-Jul-09 09:31:30

I certainly wouldn't invite him.

dilemma456 Sun 12-Jul-09 09:32:54

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allaboutme Sun 12-Jul-09 09:34:38

i wouldnt invite him and perhaps i might even explain to the teacher why so that if the child or parent asks the teacher about it then it will be clear
might even prompt him to look at his attitude and think about apologising!

Goblinchild Sun 12-Jul-09 09:34:39

It's simple really and something he needs to learn, however old he is.

Adults don't invite people they dislke or are frightened of to their celebrations, so why should your daughter?
Perhaps as he develops more understanding of social relationships and responsibilities, the situation will improve.
Just make it clear to the parents that you are not demonising him, or unwilling to be friendly in the future, it's just not appropriate at this time for him to be at the party until he has more self-control and takes responsibility for his actions.

junglist1 Sun 12-Jul-09 09:34:46

The problem is, he could cause more problems for her if he's the ONLY one not invited. I'd cut the guest list further if I was you.

Goblinchild Sun 12-Jul-09 09:36:14

Are they going to the same secondary school?

HecatesTwopenceworth Sun 12-Jul-09 09:39:27

I wouldn't invite him.

Why would you put his feelings above the feelings of your own child?

Because if you invite someone who she is afraid of - that is what you are doing. Saying avoiding him feeling excluded is more important than her feeling happy at her party.

Bugger him. Perhaps people not wanting him around is what he needs to take a good hard look at himself.

saintlydamemrsturnip Sun 12-Jul-09 09:41:54

I would avoid him by not inviting everyone else. As he didn't deliberately set out to beak her arm then I would be wary of using that as a reason. I broke my arm as a kid when someone landed in me. Just one of those things and I wouldn't have expected an apology. I wouldn't not invite just him.

HecatesTwopenceworth Sun 12-Jul-09 09:44:39

But then you are excluding other children for the sole purpose of avoiding inviting him without letting him know it is him you don't want.

That is not fair on those children.

Why shouldn't someone know that their behaviour means others don't want to be around them? Why is it a good idea to try to protect them from that knowledge? Sometimes you need a hard truth.

oldraver Sun 12-Jul-09 09:46:30

I agree with ALLABOUTME. He needs to learn there are consequences to his actions and if you did invite him it would send the message he can get away with his bas behaviour

My first concern though would be your DD's feelings and her fright of him, that would be enough NOT to invite him. I dont think it matters if the whole class are invited and he isnt.

saintmaybe Sun 12-Jul-09 09:51:01

They didn't mean to hurt her, and it's the end of year 6.
He'd be the only one in the class not invited?
I do see that you're worried about taking responsibility for him, but that seems really harsh.

cornsilk Sun 12-Jul-09 09:53:01

How did they break her arm?

piscesmoon Sun 12-Jul-09 09:58:53

I wouldn't invite him but that means that you can't possibly invite all the rest of the class-that would be mean and vindictive. The DS might have all sort of problems that you are unaware of. I would just invite her friends.

gonaenodaethat Sun 12-Jul-09 09:59:37

One of tripped her and she fell over and the other one threw her friend on top of her.

Not sure at which stage the arm was broken. She is in an above elbow cast and will be for most of the Summer holidays.

It's the end of year 5 saint. She is old for the year and I'd need to book the room now. I'm just seeing what you all think now because if I feel we need to invite him then I might try to steer DD in a different direction for her party.

I don't know if they'll be going to the same secondary - hope not.

saintlydamemrsturnip Sun 12-Jul-09 09:59:51

If he'd deliberately set out to hurt her I wouldn't hesitate to exclude him. But it sounds as if it was part of rough play. He comes with history so will be judged more harshly and yes a card would have been nice, but as it was accidental I think to expect an apology could be a bit unfair. So I'm not sure he will learn anything from an exclusion other than he gets treated harshly for an accident. Doesn't mean there aren't other reasons to exclude him but I'm not sure about punishing him for an accident.

Of course you wouldn't tell him why he was being excluded so I guess the reasons don't matter. How would your de feel about him being the only one left out? Would it make things difficult for her?

Goblinchild Sun 12-Jul-09 10:02:07

Sorry, I assumed that as a July birthday, she'd be one of the youngest in Y6. I take it you are not in England then?

saintlydamemrsturnip Sun 12-Jul-09 10:02:22

Oh cross posted. If you were excluding based on that incident then I would exclude the other too. It sounds like more than accidental- potentially- but depends how it was played out iyswim.

cornsilk Sun 12-Jul-09 10:03:48

I can see why you're angry but it does sound like an accident. Did that happen at school? Is that normal play for their playground?
Poor dd being in a cast all summer.

gonaenodaethat Sun 12-Jul-09 10:07:34

DD says 'Let's invite him and hope he doesn't come'.

Saintly - don't you think you should apologise even if it's an accident? He broke her arm! If I bump into someone in the street I apologise even though it's an accident. DD is a quiet, slightly bookish little girl who was playing with her friends when they knocked her over in some testosterone fuelled lets get the girls attention horseplay.

I think she deserves an apology and if she had done it to one of them I'd've rung their parents and apologised to them too!

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