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to not want to send my child to an "outstanding" school

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apostrophe Fri 19-Jun-09 21:59:18

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RumourOfAHurricane Fri 19-Jun-09 22:01:48

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2shoes Fri 19-Jun-09 22:02:13

yanbu in not choosing it
I don't want my dd taught among nt kids(she has cp) I think inclusion means exclusion.

Hulababy Fri 19-Jun-09 22:03:28

You chose the school that is right for your child. Visit them and see which best suits your DC.

A school can achieve outstanding for many reasons. It does not mean they are the best academically, but they may be the best at what they do/achieve with their children.

Not all children with learning difficulties and special needs mean disruption in class though.

isittooearlyforgin Fri 19-Jun-09 22:04:00

sometimes schools get a reputation for being good at dealing with SN and so they more SN kids go there

FAQinglovely Fri 19-Jun-09 22:04:13

One of our local primary schools (rated good not outstanding amdittedly) has a abnormally large number of of SEN children..........the reason? Because it has special privisions for them. So other children aren't disadvantaged and those requiring the extra help are given it without impacting on the rest of the children.

TBH I think you're mad - a school that's been rated outstanding obviously isn't creating disruptioins for the "other" 75%

Ceilidhgirl Fri 19-Jun-09 22:04:38

You can consider whatever you like in your thinking. If places at the school are highly sought-after then I'm sure other local parents will be delighted if you choose a different one, whatever the basis for your decision making.

LadyGlencoraPalliser Fri 19-Jun-09 22:05:06

If a school is outstanding it means Ofsted think it is doing a good job for all its pupils. It is incredibly difficult to get an outstanding rating. Have you actually been to see the school? YABU IMO for making ANY decision if you haven't as will be making that decision on a basis of ignorance, prejudice and unfounded assumptions.

Doodle2u Fri 19-Jun-09 22:07:14

What are the SAT results like?

Is there a specific and partially separate SN facility?

Why did you put this in AIBU?

RumourOfAHurricane Fri 19-Jun-09 22:07:30

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apostrophe Fri 19-Jun-09 22:07:38

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FluffyBunnyGoneBad Fri 19-Jun-09 22:08:14

Ds's school have a unit for blind/partially sighted children. Ds is being tested for aspergers, despite being really bright. I really don't know why you have a problem with this. Children with SN deserve an 'outstanding' education aswell. Perhapse it will help your children to be tolerant of those that have SN as clearly, they are unable to learn this from you!

seeker Fri 19-Jun-09 22:10:30

I"What happens to the other 75% while the teachers are dealing with the behaviour of the 25%? How will my average children thrive? As far as I've seen from other threads, inclusion tends to mean sticking kids with special needs alongside the others, resulting in disruption for the many and poor support for the few."

It's an outstanding school. How on earth could it have been judged outstanding if it only paid attention to the needs of 25% of it's pupils?

hereidrawtheline Fri 19-Jun-09 22:10:43

I'm going to stick my neck out and say YABU.

It comes across as if you are saying "those pesky SN kids"

Be happy the school is caring and "with it" enough to deal even with those children who are not so "easy". And there is no evidence whatsoever in an "outstanding" school that NT kids are bogged down by SN kids. That is probably much more likely to happen in a school that is struggling a lot.

apostrophe Fri 19-Jun-09 22:11:43

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hereidrawtheline Fri 19-Jun-09 22:13:04

yes seeker you said what I was thinking. If the NT kids were suffering from proximity to SN kids they wouldnt get outstanding. It is a sure sign the school is doing well for more than 25% of its pupils.

pointydog Fri 19-Jun-09 22:13:57

Go visit schools and ask

FAQinglovely Fri 19-Jun-09 22:14:30

"why it has 25% of kids with SEN when the others nearby have 5% and 7%."

like I said - probably like out local junior school that has a similar % of SEN chidlren - it's a has a specialist department and staff.

Doodle2u Fri 19-Jun-09 22:15:48

apostrophe - does the school have a specific SN provision/department, do you know? Sorry, I asked this further down and it's relevant. My friend works in a primary which is NT but with an SN department attached. Children from miles around go to that school because of that department. Maybe the school you are talking about is the same.

saintlydamemrsturnip Fri 19-Jun-09 22:16:34

IME schools that cope with children with SN do so because they treat each child as an individual. So are usually very good for every child.

I didn't send NT ds2 and ds3 to the local outstanding school because I knew that classification came from driving pretty much every child with SN out of the school- especially those tricky ones on the autism spectrum. DS2 and Ds3 are not on the autism/ADHD spectrum but I didn't want them exposed to children being excluded for being so.

saintlydamemrsturnip Fri 19-Jun-09 22:18:11

Although I agree with the others, for that % it probably has a unit. Units and schools usually operate very independently - if the outstanding is for the work of the unit don't expect that good practice to have filtered through the school. Maybe sometimes it does, but I wouldn't assume it has.

seeker Fri 19-Jun-09 22:18:16

You are very lucky to have the choice of two outstanding school - there aren't that many of them!

FAQinglovely Fri 19-Jun-09 22:19:01

saintly - our local school with the Unit acts together.

apostrophe Fri 19-Jun-09 22:21:39

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apostrophe Fri 19-Jun-09 22:23:31

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