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To hope that Gordon Brown doesn't resign?

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mrsruffallo Fri 05-Jun-09 09:24:08

I still don't think he is doing a bad job. I think he is a very caring and intelligent politician, and I hope he stays.
Am I the only one who feels like this? grin

howtotellmum Fri 05-Jun-09 09:26:32

I hope he stays- cos as long as he does, there is not a chance in hell that Labour will win the next election.

mrsruffallo Fri 05-Jun-09 09:27:37

What a surprise- you seem so liberal!!

Hassled Fri 05-Jun-09 09:31:56

No, I've managed to retain my soft spot for Gordon despite all the shite. And I really can't come up with a person who would do a better job. I do believe he is a genuine person, and I don't see that anyone else would have handled the financial crisis differently, they're all as bad as each other re the expenses mess...

mrsruffallo Fri 05-Jun-09 09:35:23

Ah, it's nice to hear I am not the only one Hassled

DeepGoat Fri 05-Jun-09 09:37:11

he is incapable of making a decision and is paralysed by his own fragile ego.

he should have called an election when he came in. the dithering weakened him.

he should have admitted that yes he did make mistakes on the economy (yes i know it is a global thing but his policy of growth growth growth and sucking up to the city was a mistake).

he could have dealt this the banking crisis alot better. rbs et al. have taken us all for mugs.

i do admire and respect him but he has fallen apart in a crisis so sorry gordon you are fired!

oh, i feel better now.

DeepGoat Fri 05-Jun-09 09:38:33

the expenses thing is just a distraction, they were all at it. i think labour have done a great job but all governments get stale and you don't get much staler than gordon brown atm.

Hassled Fri 05-Jun-09 09:42:12

Yes, there was something interesting in the Guardian along the lines of his inability to make quick decisions being his biggest weakness. And while that was a positive thing (the thinking things out slowly and carefully) when he was Chancellor, it's not an approach that suits the role of PM, where everything is so rapid-fire. In my mind though, slow and well-thought decisions are usually the best ones.

AitchTwoOh Fri 05-Jun-09 09:43:11

i TOTALLY agree about the election, that was an absolutely fatal dither. but right now i just feel that he's being bullied. i know that's a pretty adolescent reaction but i don't like to see anyone being bullied and give into it.

jumpingbeans Fri 05-Jun-09 09:43:22

Oh we do love a scapegoat, makes me smile when all the other parties are blaming him for the thieving/embezzelment going on, when they are all at it.

DeepGoat Fri 05-Jun-09 09:43:47

except when the economy is in free fall the the banks are taking us all for a ride. honestly there is nothing well thought out about anything he has done in power.

smallchange Fri 05-Jun-09 09:44:29

YANBU. I voted Labour yesterday and tbh it was a vote for Gordon.

I can't stand the rush to find a scapegoat and I think he's the best we've got at the moment. I genuinely don't believe anyone could do better under the current conditions.

AitchTwoOh Fri 05-Jun-09 09:45:40

well i CANNOT believe that we own the banks but the fuckers still aren't lending. surely that was built into the 'we are saving your arses and putting our debt situation into crisis' deal?

Tamarto Fri 05-Jun-09 09:47:18

DeepGoat - You can't blame him for the state of the economy, it was going to happen sooner or later hmm


I'd rather eat my own foot than see DC as PM!

Voltaire Fri 05-Jun-09 09:49:45

I think GB is a very decent politician but Labour's chances of winning a fourth term might increase if he stepped down. But I can't think who might take over. David Miliband would probably be their best bet in terms of moderate Blairite and possessing the necessary intellectual rigour for the PM role. Millburn, Johnson and the ghastly Stephen Byers fail on the intellectual rigour front.

smallchange Fri 05-Jun-09 09:49:53

Well, to be fair they are lending but only to very sure bets.

So I suppose you could argue that in the current uncertain situation that's being sensible with our money.

DeepGoat Fri 05-Jun-09 09:49:57

i am not blaming him for the crisis (read my post) but i don't think he handled it well at all. and it seems pretty crazy that he was so unprepared for it. even i, with the ecomonical sense of a 5 year old, could see that a crash was coming.

he acted with extreme short sightedness and should have behave with more authority with the city instead of acting like a love struck teenager.

Voltaire Fri 05-Jun-09 09:51:43

Brown should have put money aside for the bad times, during all those very good years.

smallchange Fri 05-Jun-09 09:55:02

See, that's easy to say in hindsight but do you really think the public (or the Opposition) would have accepted it at the time? We'd have been moaning like crazy about "Greedy Gordon hoarding our hard-earned taxes".

We get the politicians (and the policies) we deserve. And Brown was spending to make up for well over a decade of neglect.

daftpunk Fri 05-Jun-09 09:57:09

agree...every labour supporter in the country should get behind them...forget the expenses claims....we don't want another 12 years of the bloody tories...

daftpunk Fri 05-Jun-09 09:58:08

labour can win the next election....i have hope.

Rindercella Fri 05-Jun-09 09:59:54

Agree Voltaire. He shouldn't have sold our gold reserves (so cheaply) either.

Brown must take responsibilty for some of the current economic mess as he was Chancellor of this country for 10 years. This means that he was the man responsible for this country's finances during that time. He took the credit (hah!) when things were going well. Now he needs to put his hands up and proclaim mea culpa that things are so bad.

I do not believe that any of the political parties are doing anything of substance at the moment. They are probably all far too worried about their personal expense claims and whether or not they will be charge with fraud.

Voltaire Fri 05-Jun-09 10:00:41

Smallchange - of course we wouldn't. We would have thought what a prudent, sensible, Chancellor. It was ridiculous to think that sort of growth was sustainable.

DeepGoat Fri 05-Jun-09 10:01:31

britain is essentially a conservative country. labour had to shove all their socialist principles up their arse to get in at all. it is depressing.

britain should have had a revolution and got shot of the ridiculous hierachical social system but sadly now we appear stuck with it.

david cameron represents all that is abhorent about the class system in this country and yet he will be voted in along with his revolting golemesque cabinet, george 'my precious' osbourne.

saadia Fri 05-Jun-09 10:03:02

I think he is a decent person and I would like to think that he is a good PM but I am on the fence about that. Definitely prefer him to Blair, am starting to like Cameron but I don't think he is really representative of his party.

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